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Quote: Originally posted by WHAFC on 10/6/2009

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If I am going to give my kids snacks and other kids are there then I would give them the same.  If there is a medical reason for the other kid not having the said snacks then that is his/her lookout.  If you choose not to feed your kids a certain type of food then keep your kids under control.  Basically, dont blame others for not adhereing to your weird dietry beliefs, if the kids want it then surely you should question your beliefs.

 

Crisps and meat always available from my tent

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Well, there's other reasons than health ones for avoiding certain foods you know. Religeous and ethical ones, for a start. Or do they not count?

Quote: Originally posted by WHAFC on 10/6/2009

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.  Parents who have an adversion to their kids enjoying sweets for any other reason than likelyhood of causing death, in my opinion should be shot.  Kids should be allowed to be kids and make their own minds up on many situations including diet. 

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Rotting teeth, hyperactivity, obesity, sugar highs, throwing up, so full they won't eat proper foods...nope, I don't let my kids eat all the junk they want. They get sweets, sure, but I certainly wouldn't let them eat a dozen bags of sweets and bars of chocolate per day, whether they enjoyed them or not. That's just poor parenting.

  It would seem that parents with children who suffer with allergies are all too acutely aware of the risks and concerns of accepting foods from other campers and understandably so.

  Thankfully I have healthy kids and innocently, like beefysmum, shellyfoz and china girl have always stated that its only fair to offer or share biscuit/sweets/fruit when they are playing with friends, although don't encourage them to accept from others not for any restrictions, just so they don't become cheeky buggers!!!

  Although we have also experienced the 'feed them once, feed them again and again' scenario!!!

  Best wishes Sam

Quote: Originally posted by Valk_scot on 10/6/2009

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Quote: Originally posted by WHAFC on 10/6/2009

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.  Parents who have an adversion to their kids enjoying sweets for any other reason than likelyhood of causing death, in my opinion should be shot.  Kids should be allowed to be kids and make their own minds up on many situations including diet. 

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Rotting teeth, hyperactivity, obesity, sugar highs, throwing up, so full they won't eat proper foods...nope, I don't let my kids eat all the junk they want. They get sweets, sure, but I certainly wouldn't let them eat a dozen bags of sweets and bars of chocolate per day, whether they enjoyed them or not. That's just poor parenting.

Post last edited on 10/06/2009 23:55:18

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Totally agree with you Valk scot, I am sorry if i am a mean mum because i dont let mine have sweeets and crisps everyday. I will choose what to feed my kids and certainly would not find it exceptable for other prents to go giving out food loaded with sugar and god no's what else to my kids without asking.

suppose im'e lucky because my kids would rather have a piece of fruit then sweets/chocolate.

Quote: Originally posted by dancinglilly on 11/6/2009

I am sorry if i am a mean mum because i dont let mine have sweeets and crisps everyday. I will choose what to feed my kids and certainly would not find it exceptable for other prents to go giving out food loaded with sugar and god no's what else to my kids without asking.

suppose im'e lucky because my kids would rather have a piece of fruit then sweets/chocolate.

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I'm with you Dancing Lilly, our kids love fruit too, they do eat sweets, chocolate & crisps on occasion, but If I don't put enough fruit in the lunch bag then they tell me off.

I don't consider myself mean, if I choose to say No, as the kids can have sweets if they choose to. However I think suggesting a parent should be shot is well out of order "WHAFC".

Yes kids should be allowed to make choices, but there is no harm in a guiding hand, now and then.

Our kids are sensitive to phenols and Salicylates, as most of these occur naturally in nature, manufacturers can advertise them as natural flavourings/colourings, and because they often have different names it's difficult for us to keep up with it let alone expect our kids to. One example is Annatto which is used as a colouring and sometimes a flavouring, it has a many different names (bixin, COU JOU, norbixin & E160B to name four).  

Because Salicylates and phenols occur naturally, some fruits and veg have high concentrations and some don't. It also depends how it's been treated, some supermarkets for example spray soft fruit with a product that is high in Salicylates because it prolongs the shelf life.  Because this allergy is outside of most peoples conciousness  we been treated by some less tolerent folk as freakish food fad people, which we are certainly not. I have no axe to grind other than "Just because it's different and outside of your life experience, does not make it freakish or a fad. Be glad that you don't have to do this for your kids, because believe me I wish we didn't have to."

My kids do police themselves however and will not accept things from strangers no matter how well intentioned. I don't expect other parents to learn list we have had to, but I would say for the reasons above is why we fall into the "ask me first" camp, and why we don't give out to others.

If parents do not want other people giving their children snacks/sharing food then it is YOUR responsibility to make sure this doesn't happen and to keep them near you if needs be, as playing together, eating together, sharing between kids on a campsite is part of camping life!

SO for now, I keep my kids close by with their ages anyway, I am strict on their diets, but they are allowed a break every now and then but in moderation with junk food, but they are on holiday. People have offered them things but I am close by to agree to it as it is my responsibility, the other campers etc would not be at fault in any way!

Quote: Originally posted by chjo on 11/6/2009

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Been reading this post and had to calm myself before posting few points here if the child has a allergy or health problems caused by diets the child shouldnt really be around other ,kids familys that are eating unless they are supervised or the parents know the kid wont accept foods that are forbidden this i am very sympathetic to and any one in this situation must find it hard.The other type of person that bans all sweets snacks etc i have no time for ,if in moderation nowt wrong with it imo active kids that are playing all day especially when camping will soon burn off the sugar extra calories so in a nutshell if my kids were getting a bag of crisps and they offered a mate some wouldnt have a second thought after all its good to share.

 

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I think that there needs to be a happy medium.     If your child has allergies etc. then they should be aware of what they can/cannot eat before they are allowed to play unsupervised.     Leaving aside other parents giving them food, it is not uncommon for kids to share sweets etc amongst themselves.     Most kids are taught to share, and will do this without thinking.
If somebody Alice or Pip were playing with, I would not be offended if a parent said to me that their child wasn't allowed such and such for what ever reason.     Apart from knowing not to offer that child that, I would also be able to have a word with my two.
It would mean that I cuold explain that so and so could not eat... because...
It would also mean that I would be careful about not offering my two stuff infront of the child.
I will always get a child to check with his/her parents if I am going to offer sweets/crisps/biscuits etc.  - if necessary sending Alice with that child (it is usually one of her friends) to find out.
It is also up to parents who do not want their children to have sweets and crisps, to not only ensure their child know they are not allowed them, but perhaps have a polite word with other parents so that the child is not offered them.    
A child may well accept a bag of crisps from another parent on site - especially if you have been "the meanest nasiest mummy in the whole wide world" and not bought that giant sized multipack of crisps when you were struggling around Tesco trying to get the food for the evening meal in.   

I think if a child is old enough to be wandering around and playing in our tent they should be old enough to know if they have allergies.  My daughter has food sensitivities and is 6 she knows what we would not let her have and would not take any of these things of someone else.

If a child was playing with my child I would always offer them something as I would not like to see them left out, but I do always say would your parents mind and if they were younger I think I would send them to check. Just make sure your child knows your rules and if you like them to ask you before they have something that is fine.

I dont eat sweet things mainly because i dont like them, my kids are both under 2 so no i still wouldnt let them have it. I brush my kids teeth morn and night. My kids eat as they would at home when camping. They dont miss out because they  dont know whats its like to have it. When they get older it might be differant but while they are still young i wont let them have it. Like i said before sorry if i seem mean but i wouldnt judge anybody by the way they bring their kids up and what they feed them. I think where my kids are concerned its up to me and their father.