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19/6/2009 at 6:49pm
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I notice the poles have marking tape on them, is the tape on all poles or do you have 4 poles with no tape?
reason being is that when i mark poles i usually mark the top ones that go around the top of the tent and not the legs so that i know straight away which ones are legs
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19/6/2009 at 7:01pm
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Sorry, I seem to be posting pics without answering your questions. I put the tape on and I thought I did it right. I'll have a go at measuring all the poles. I'll take a pic of the frame without the canvas tomorrow. Something isn't right at the front. The top of the front where the seam goes across is tight if I splay the front legs out. I splayed the back legs out and that did actually help a little bit. If I raise the legs in the kitchen part then the mud wall is too high.
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19/6/2009 at 7:18pm
Location: swansea
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Do the leg poles have adjustment buttons? You said the kitchen poles werent fully extended do the legs have the option to lengthen or shorten them?
In the last pic of the front ,cant see the bottom corner , but is there any way of placing the leg pole so that it lines up straight with a seam , either the one with the canopy at the top, or the other one with the guyline running in front of it ?
as said already all legs ahould be splayed out further.
its not that far off the ground , if you pull it all out further and soak it it might drop a couple more inches .
The actual canvas won't need to be touching the grass.
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19/6/2009 at 8:21pm
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Hi Debbie, that last pic is the one that seems to be wrong. The pole just doesn't run in line with the seam. I have to move the fabric to line up with the pole and then it's too tight across the front and the zip won't close.
Caster, you're right, the angle seems wrong. I'll have a go at swapping some of the poles around tomorrow.
Debbie, I've already wet it (and it was bone dry inside)and tried to stretch it. I'll have another go tomorrow. When I put the groundsheet down, I was thinking of having it going up the canvas a little bit instead of being flat to the ground. Is it ok to do this?
I can lengthen the legs for the kitchen extension but not the rest of the legs. If I lengthen the kitchen poles, the plastic roof part goes baggy! Also the mud wall is then off the ground in the kitchen!
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19/6/2009 at 8:28pm
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this will not help you one little bit bluenosewidow ....but what a great coloured tant you have there i love it 
im relying on the sept meet for all fellow tenters to convince my hubby WE DO need a frame tent lol
hope you get it sorted
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19/6/2009 at 9:19pm
Location: swansea
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I think if you try repositioning the poles tomorrow so that they are as splayed out as far as possible,try the back one in the front as has been suggested , get it all as straight as you can , then give it a really good soaking and peg down again to stretch it a bit more it will be okay .
it doesn't look as if theres a huge amount wrong with it to me, apart from the front corner.
The only thing with using an oversized groundsheet in a canvas tent is that it could causing wicking in , instead of water run off.
when flaps are on the outside they are meant for the water to run down the walls and off the plastic flaps . so the groundsheet should really be lying on the grass, not going up the walls .
On the frame tent I had the flaps were outside like yours and there were eyelets to peg the flaps down , and although the canvas didn't quite touch the ground , there wasn't any problem with draughts either. the weight of the flaps and them being pegged down kept them flat on the ground .
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19/6/2009 at 9:20pm
Location: Cumbria (Upper Eden Valley)
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No problem with making a bath tube type ground sheet. would be a sort of solution but wouldn't solve why it doesn't look or sit right.
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20/6/2009 at 11:05am
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Ooh, I wish I'd read your last post earlier Debbie, I've just taken the tent down! I'm going to my daughter's later and if it stops raining I'll have another go.
Debbbie and Keely, I though about making some eyelets in the mud flap so I could peg it down. Would you recommend doing this?
This tent is so lovely it is just what I need, I'm just annoyed I can't get it right.
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20/6/2009 at 11:39am
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As i said its a long shot, but I would say yes to putting eyelets in, you can get kits for this .
Pity you took it down, leaving it up in the rain would have been the best thing you could have done really as the canvas would have got heavier and stretching it with legs outwards would have been easier when it was really soaking wet.
When you put it up again with it stretched as tight as you can get it , after its soaking wet , you peg it again a bit tighter, thats what will stretch it and pull the canvas nearer the ground .
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20/6/2009 at 9:42pm
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Quote: Originally posted by bluenosewidow on 19/6/2009
That front right pole is deffo in the wrong position.Next time you pitch it, try to align it between the purple and the green panels so that it sits on the corner seam (i.e. so the green panel is on the front of the tent, purple panel goes round the corner, then kitchen bit pushes out at the top but feet of the poles continue in a straight line with the rest of the tent side, if you know what I mean). That should allow you to splay the legs more from front to back, then mirror it on the left side, keeping the tent nice and square, which will reduce the overall height of the tent and lower the canvas a bit.
Best of luck with it!
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21/6/2009 at 4:37pm
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Ok who said I was an expert? What I know about frame tents could be written on the back of a postage stamp lol
But thanks anyway :)
People have already said what I think, the frame is not together right.
I would go with the measuring idea and get the legs all the same size, etc and then repitch.
The mudflaps may not lie totally flat on the floor but they should be a lot closer than they were.
Good luck and new pics please when you get it sorted
Angie
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