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14/8/2009 at 9:47am
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we have a khyam tourer 400 and are going away for a week this weekend.  after looking at the pictures of our tent pitched from last hol and viewing the instruction dvd again i noticed that what i think are called the mud flaps are pegged out when we pitched whereas you can't see them on the dvd.hubby says they are fine pegged out i'm not so sure.can anyone help.

  



14/8/2009 at 9:51am
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I think they're supposed to be tucked in and pegged down with groundsheet pegs, then the groundsheet placed over them. That's what we do with them on our XL Excelsior, anyway.

That way, they keep all the draughts out, and any water runs underneath your groundsheet, rather than under the mudflap and into the tent.

 



14/8/2009 at 9:52am
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I thought you usually just tuck the mudflaps under the groundsheet? or just leave them loose... guess it depends on whether they are needed or not...


14/8/2009 at 10:31am
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I may be wrong, but if its wet don`t you peg them under the ground sheet, and if its dry peg them out to encouage some ventilation?.

I ave a SIG so may be talking rubbish17



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14/8/2009 at 11:16am
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But you have to decide where to put them when you pitch really. Otherwise you'd have to move all your stuff and lift the groundsheet at the edges to tuck the flaps under and peg them down.

That's quite a faff on our Khyam, the groundsheet loops are pegged out outside, and you have to poke them out of the tent at the corners. It would be a real pain trying to do it in a tent full of gear.

If we were having a heatwave and the forecast was for it to stay that way, I might risk leaving them loose, but not otherwise.  



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14/8/2009 at 11:16am
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I'm glad someone has brought this up! we have a Outwell Vermont XL. pegged these "mud flaps" out - well inside as fran1000 mentioned and each one of them ripped over this past weekend. Tent was just purchased in May so I phoned up Camperite and they explained that nobody pegs these out and if you do they're most likely to rip. If that is the case, why provide loops so they can be pegged?


Camperite is going to collect the tent and repair though. Excellent customer service!



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14/8/2009 at 11:30am
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I think the Outwell must have a different arrangement.

The Khyam flaps have big eyelets, inset quite a way from the edge of the flap, that you peg down with "mushroom" type pegs. If you got a problem, I think the eyelet would detach from the fabric and all you'd end up with would be an enlarged hole sans eyelet.

If you used a crook-top normal tent peg, not only would you risk a second hole where the point of the crook met the fabric, but you'd be likely to risk damaging the groundsheet when you laid it on top.



14/8/2009 at 11:37am
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This is my outwell all pegged out. The eyelets are right at the edge so I always assumed you should peg out, sounds as if the Khyam is different though

 



14/8/2009 at 12:40pm
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Ah yes, quite different. On my Khyam, the flaps are the same fabric as the fly.


14/8/2009 at 1:42pm
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We have the Tourer 400 and am trying to remember what we did.
Going to see if any of the pics give me a clue (not that I have many)


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14/8/2009 at 1:43pm
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think this is out? (ignore that guy rope as it's pitched wrongly - I did get OH to redo it after I noticed he'd done it wrong).



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14/8/2009 at 1:52pm
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this one is maybe out?



(hey, a rare pic of me )

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14/8/2009 at 4:58pm
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If you tuck your flaps inside under the groundsheet you don't have to peg them. I've never pegged a stormflap down in my life. I've got enough gear sitting round inside the edges of the tent to hold everything down perfectly well.

That's assumng you can tuck them inside of course. Some stormflaps are not slit at the poles so you can only peg them outside. But traditionally all stormflaps did tuck inside and hardly any of them were ever pegged down.



14/8/2009 at 5:11pm
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We didn't bother the first time we pitched it, but it was very windy and some of them came untucked.

Of course, it's possible they may have been assisted by little terrier snouts.



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it is slit at the poles which is why i thought it should tuck under.  i think i will tuck it under and just put acouple of pegs in and see how we go.  thanks everyone for your great replies.


14/8/2009 at 9:27pm
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We have a Tourer 200 and always peg the mud flaps 'under'.  We use plastic mushroom pegs.  The first ones I bought, that seem to be available at most places, have too large a diameter to fit through the mud flap eyelets.  FInally found these ones that fit perfectly:

http://www.lightningleisure.com/acatalog/Tent_Pegs.html

 

 




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