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20/3/2010 at 11:33am
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Cable snap ? Dear oh dear. There isn't a transformer in an EHU, perhaps you meant an RCD which doesn't really matter because camp sites are required by law to have those installed at the hook up point. 

 



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Quote: Originally posted by Safeway56 on 20/3/2010

Cable snap ? Dear oh dear. There isn't a transformer in an EHU, perhaps you meant an RCD which doesn't really matter because camp sites are required by law to have those installed at the hook up point. 

 


get over your own arrogance.

 

I actually admit i know next to nothing about anything diy based.  However, arrogance like you are showing is not called for either.

Some people like me like piece of mind.  Cable snaps are quite easy and can occur if a car runs over the cable.

just because u perceive yourself as competant enough to ressolve the issue on site, don't assume others feel the same way.



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20/3/2010 at 1:39pm
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It is not uncommon for a core in a flex to snap,it was quite common to find it in our appliance repair workshops when a cable has been frequently rolled and unrolled and occasionally kinked.
If the RCD is faulty doesn't necessarily mean it is closed it may be faulty and won't close.
Makes sense to check all equipment is functioning correctly especially electrics as if it isn't you may be tempted to take unnecessary risks or bodge repairs.
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20/3/2010 at 2:53pm
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I have another solution to testing it mantrachant

A night away very close to home ..... just for ehu testing puposes of course.
If you go to Worsbrough then it's near enough home to be OK if all is not well

What could be better - a night away to check it out.


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20/3/2010 at 2:56pm
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Safeway - if I remember right you had a bad fire in your van???? how are things now - have you managed to keep camping? Any plans for his year?

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20/3/2010 at 4:44pm
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john i dont think for a minute safeway was being arrogant i think you maybe just read it wrong and over reacted?

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20/3/2010 at 4:54pm
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I guess it all depends wat you have on your EHU too, if mine didn`t work we`d be fine. We don`t run much off ours

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Quote: Originally posted by gillychick on 20/3/2010
john i dont think for a minute safeway was being arrogant i think you maybe just read it wrong and over reacted?
just reread and guess we al have a different take on things.

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21/3/2010 at 11:15pm
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What I have done in the past, is to take my unit down to the campshop and asked them to test it.  All they've done is plug it in, and used an electrical item.

I had a problem with my unit.  Even a couple of electricians would'nt look at. As it was under guarentee.  In the end I swapped it for another one.



22/3/2010 at 10:01am
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Quote: Originally posted by dadsbeaniemad on 20/3/2010
Safeway - if I remember right you had a bad fire in your van???? how are things now - have you managed to keep camping? Any plans for his year?

 

I no longer have a camper van...We've got a caravan but we much prefer tents(anybody want a caravan ? going cheap) You've got more room in tents and the air is so much fresher, so much so that on the first camping trip of the year last year we slept the clock round...8.30pm till 8.30am. Something we've not done for years. The only problem is I just can't stop buying tents...we've got seven on the last count but even worse I started collecting cooking stoves and now can't stop that also. I've got a six foot tall shelving unit filled completely with stoves of all descriptions...gas...dual fuel...primus stoves...meths burners...you name it I've got it. I'd camp the year round but the great she-devil won't have it and I'd feel a little uncomfortable on my own. 



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use this to plug it in at home

plug this in the EHU sockets You could keep this with your camping gear to test whenever you want. We used to leave our tester plugged in in the caravan all the time.

Every time you use the cable you should test the RCD by pushing the black test button, this will cause unit to trip out if it does not trip, do not use your EHU cable.

I think the propriety brands of hook ups are very strong and faults would be rare, but like all the other kit it does get thrown in the car/trailer when its raining stuff piled on top of it including a wet tent.

We do not use a hook up often so I tend to give ours a two minute check as I load up the trailer before any trip when we want to take it.

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22/3/2010 at 9:31pm
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As a professional electrician can I just add a few words of advise?
A lot of what has been said is fine no problems with that.
Just plugging in and trying an appliance on the other end is NOT much use as a test for electrical safety!
What I do is carry out a visual check first. Check the cable for any signs of damage, ie cuts and abrasions to the outer sheath.
Then.. Check the connections in the plug for security and tightness. The connections MUST be tight. loose plug connections are a major factor in fires caused by electrical equipment.

I have the luxury of a proper test instrument for checking the trip times and current of the RCD but I appreciate that the average camper will not have this.
so...
all you can do is plug it in, use one of those polarity/earth test plugs and check all is OK.
Finally operate the "test" button on the RCD.
It should disconnect the supply instantly.
If it does not, take it to an electrician and have a new RCD fitted.
(Mind you it will probably be cheaper to by a new unit!)
Hope this helps some of you.
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Quote: Originally posted by dadsbeaniemad on 20/3/2010
I have another solution to testing it mantrachant

A night away very close to home ..... just for ehu testing puposes of course.
If you go to Worsbrough then it's near enough home to be OK if all is not well

What could be better - a night away to check it out.


http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/sites/reviews.asp?revid=3122


Heee heee. I know the site you are talking about Keeely!
Why not!
It's been lovely weather here, the wings are waiting to fly!


22/3/2010 at 9:54pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Safeway56 on 20/3/2010

What's to go wrong with an EHU lead?...The worse that can happen is a loose connection which doesn't require the engineering skills of Brunel to remedy.


Think we're talking about the whole unit here rather than just a lead....

Rats and such chew electrical cables. The unit could get wet if stored under a drip. Or your Hubby could place a large tea chest of books on it, sigh. Fortunately, our unit survived......



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Quote: Originally posted by dukedog on 22/3/2010


As a professional electrician can I just add a few words of advise?
A lot of what has been said is fine no problems with that.
Just plugging in and trying an appliance on the other end is NOT much use as a test for electrical safety!
What I do is carry out a visual check first. Check the cable for any signs of damage, ie cuts and abrasions to the outer sheath.
Then.. Check the connections in the plug for security and tightness. The connections MUST be tight. loose plug connections are a major factor in fires caused by electrical equipment.

I have the luxury of a proper test instrument for checking the trip times and current of the RCD but I appreciate that the average camper will not have this.
so...
all you can do is plug it in, use one of those polarity/earth test plugs and check all is OK.
Finally operate the "test" button on the RCD.
It should disconnect the supply instantly.
If it does not, take it to an electrician and have a new RCD fitted.
(Mind you it will probably be cheaper to by a new unit!)
Hope this helps some of you.
As ever
Frank

I do like posts like this. Clear sensible advice from someone who actually knows the drill.



23/3/2010 at 2:04pm
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Quote: Originally posted by dukedog on 22/3/2010
As a professional electrician can I just add a few words of advise?
A lot of what has been said is fine no problems with that.
Just plugging in and trying an appliance on the other end is NOT much use as a test for electrical safety!
What I do is carry out a visual check first. Check the cable for any signs of damage, ie cuts and abrasions to the outer sheath.
Then.. Check the connections in the plug for security and tightness. The connections MUST be tight. loose plug connections are a major factor in fires caused by electrical equipment.

I have the luxury of a proper test instrument for checking the trip times and current of the RCD but I appreciate that the average camper will not have this.
so...
all you can do is plug it in, use one of those polarity/earth test plugs and check all is OK.
Finally operate the "test" button on the RCD.
It should disconnect the supply instantly.
If it does not, take it to an electrician and have a new RCD fitted.
(Mind you it will probably be cheaper to by a new unit!)
Hope this helps some of you.
As ever
Frank


We disposed of our EHU and bought a new one last October because of the flex constantly bending and it had split the orange casing where it actualy goes into the rdc and socket part. I would alos imagine that it had been putting stress on the wiring too.
I presume we could have taken it to be looked at and fixed but it was a few years old so we replaced it just to be on the safe side.

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