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Subject Topic: Trailer - what to we need to secure it? Post Reply Post New Topic
27/5/2010 at 10:11am
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Hello all, I don't want to appear thick but I probably sound it lol...

We're relatively new to camping so I don't know everything....we've bought an erde 102 and I'd like to know if we need to buy anything to keep it secure on the campsites?  What do you do with yours? 



27/5/2010 at 10:27am
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We have the Erde 102 as well. We don't secure it at all. We just keep it close to the side or back of the tent. If someone really wants to take it, nothing will stop them. I think some people take a wheel off and others use a wheel clamp or chain and padlock. I suppose it depends on the type of site you use too. We normally only use small quiet ones so that helps i think.


27/5/2010 at 10:37am
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Ive got a couple of big chains and locks that I secure around the nearest tree if available and then one through the ladder rack on the trailer and the other through the break away chain. I'd rather give any potential thieves some opposition so they go and nick someone elses unsecure trailer.

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27/5/2010 at 10:42am
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I don’t do anything with mine and just leave it on the site with no security fitted, but a lot of people want the peice of mind of some sort of deterrent

 

But bear in mind state of the art security could cost as much as your trailer

 

trailer hitch lock

you could start with a hitch lock that stops somebody hooking the trailer to a car

wheel clamp

then there is a wheel clamp, or a heavy duty chain lock

the first two are a visual detterants and would not stop you picking the trailer up and putting it in the back of a van if you can find a fixed object like a tree or large post you could lock the trailer to that with a heavy duty chain lock 

but as i said if somebody wants to steal your trailer then the probably will regardless of what you do to it 



27/5/2010 at 11:28am
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This wont visually deter anyone from trying to take a trailer but it will alert everyone around that something is not right if someone does try to move it.

We have a small battery powered personal alarm with an incredibly loud output when triggered (The type carried in a handbag). The unit has a cord attached to a pin which locates in the alarm when set but when pulled from the alarm it sets it off.

Once we have pitched and the trailer is empty and not going to be moved again I position the alarm box with Velcro against the back of the axle box section behind one of the wheels under the trailer with the pin cord facing down. I then use a small tent peg to attach the cord to the ground below the trailer behind the wheel so it cannot be clearly seen.

Now if the trailer is moved or even lifted up by the hitch the cord and pin are pulled from the box and the alarm goes off. By the time they have found the box and pin cord and relocated the pin to stop the alarm most of the site will know something is not right but I would expect that by that time the undesirables would have decided to try elsewhere.

Here is the link for the Minder Alarm that we use:

http://www.personalalarms.com/store/erol.html?1115x0#1115X1358

 

 



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27/5/2010 at 11:57am
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Quote: Originally posted by 2gocampin on 27/5/2010

We have a small battery powered personal alarm with an incredibly loud output when triggered (The type carried in a handbag). The unit has a cord attached to a pin which locates in the alarm when set but when pulled from the alarm it sets it off.




My Grandparents used the same (rape alarm) method on their garden shed. Doesn't half give you a fright if you forget to unhook the pin before opening the door.


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27/5/2010 at 1:22pm
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I have a wheel clamp on mine but if someone really wants it they will take it away. I guess its the same as everything we leave on the campsite you hope that those using the site are honest and that only those staying on the site have access


27/5/2010 at 1:49pm
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Thanks for your replies everybody.  Really helpful.  We can't really afford to go out buying expensive things, and I was kind of hoping you'd be safe leaving it just like you do the contents of the tent.  I think I might actually look at getting one of those alarms, or removing a wheel (although I realise the latter wouldn't actually stop it being taken).


27/5/2010 at 3:23pm
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Don't you have any old bike locks hanging around the garage? Doesn't have to be anything fancy. Just a decent padlock and some reasonable strength old chain.

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27/5/2010 at 3:49pm
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Ooh yeah we have got a really thick bikelock actually, never thought of that.  Thanks. I love this site!


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27/5/2010 at 6:09pm
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Don't forget to check what your insurers require you to use. Most want a wheel clamp.

We wheelclamp ours - to keep the insurers happy (we tend to take a photo of it wheel clamped to prove that it was!) but we'll often chain it to something big like a tree or the car as well.

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27/5/2010 at 6:10pm
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Quote: Originally posted by 2gocampin on 27/5/2010

We have a small battery powered personal alarm with an incredibly loud output when triggered (The type carried in a handbag). The unit has a cord attached to a pin which locates in the alarm when set but when pulled from the alarm it sets it off.


Sounds good to me. Will get my alarm looked out for our first outing with trailer at the weekend. Was also going to lock to nearest tree too.

Sara



27/5/2010 at 10:58pm
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Hi Crazyb I have an Erde 142 and for about £3 or so you can buy a lock which fits into the hitch and prevents anyone from hitching up or from unhitching from your tow bar if you stop at a services etc also available from a company called western towing attachements is a ground anchor which screws into the ground and then allows you to lock the hitch to it, it cannot be removed from the ground without unscrewing and to do that with the trailer locked to it would require picking the trailer up and unscrewing, my trailer normaly sits behind the tent and if it did get stolen then I am fully insured through the camping and caravan clubs insurance which is the safest way of protecting your investment.

 

hope this helps



27/5/2010 at 11:01pm
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Do the C&CC insurers not require a wheel clamp on trailers? I thought they all did when I was looking around?

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27/5/2010 at 11:37pm
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My trailer only looks like it's worth about £3.50 but works fine and goes from a-b and back again with no problems. I do think about tarting it up a bit but for now I work on the theory that they'll steal everyone elses before mine.

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28/5/2010 at 12:04am
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An alternative alarm and very affordable is one of these alarm padlocks. Just attach it to the trailer somewhere and movement will set it off.It resets automatically and set off immediately if the sensor pick ups movement again.

I would fit it to a chain and have it lay on a solid surface so only if someone tampers with it it gets set off.It gives a 5 second delay to allow you to unarm it with the keys and can be used with the alarm on or off.

Get one for your sheds too or even garden furniture,it has so many uses.

As a locksmith i sell and use these myself.Great for bikes on a car bike rack,just arm the padlock at services etc for extra protection. You can even attach it it to any item you dont want nicked and the alarm will sound if moved.I imagine its hard to run off for long with something giving out an 120 decibel alarm.



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