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02/2/2011 at 11:40am
Location: Salford
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Right, just a couple of points from my own experience,a few years ago ( quite a few but wont go in to that now ) a crowd of us went grape picking in Epernay,at night it got REALLY cold.
First thing we did was hit the sports shops for air beds, no SIMs back then. When it came to sleeping I always got down to my undies in an average (for the time) sleeping bag & soon warmed up but a couple of the lads were cold all night.
Now we move on a bit, I fish through the winter at Cleveleys & spend 2/3 nights at a time in the back of my car ( these arent the most thermal of environments) I use the thickest Outwell single SIM available & a Vango Nitestar Sq XL,obviously I would get some looks next morning from the doggy walkers ( not doggers) jumping out of the tailgate of the car in my undies so I wear loose fleece top & lined trackie pants & only need to zip the bag half way, if it gets really cold I pull the hood up but usually snuggling down into the bag works to keep your head warm,I also have some really good thermal walking socks, 2 pairs, one for inside my wellies & a dry pair to sleep in, keeps the tootsies warm.
I have to admit that I take a decent pillow because I hate lying flat, I have done this regularly over the last few years to -10 & the only problem is de-icing the inside of the car in the morning.
I always take an empty 2 litre pop bottle with me to save getting up in the night(work it out) dont know what the girlies would use but they seem to hold it better.
As for the cold back, yes its a problem because when I lean against the cold inside of the car it does come through so I use my thermal flotation jacket for sea fishing as a sort of blanket but just in the middle, a cheaper alternative would be a couple of tramps overcoats as they seem to survive OK.
So back to the OP I think that as an experiment it was a good effort but proved one thing, spend a little more on a couple of good items ie sleeping bag & SIM & you will actually be carrying less gear & staying warmer.
Hope this info is a bit of help to someone somewhere & now I have to get my tidetables out as its the nearest I get to camping in winter & I feel a long weekend in the back of the car coming on.
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That's also why I prefer the freedom of quilts but you can't get them in a rucksack.
, for me it makes a real difference if I have a set of clothes to sleep in that I have not been wearing during the day. Changing into sleep clothes always helps me to sleep warmer and more comfortably 
