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02/8/2011 at 7:11pm
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I don't have a problem with people sitting up chatting til the early hours - its supposed to be a holiday, not a boot camp! To me part of the pleasure of camping is chilling out with my mates in the evening with a few bottles of wine, and yes some outdoor lighting is essential. I think it is totally unreasonable to expect complete darkness and silence - I do wonder why some people go to campsites when they would be better off in a field in the middle of nowhere (or at home with their sleep mask on). Personally I am not keen on hearing screaming toddlers who don't share their parents love of camping.. but hey thats what earplugs are for!



02/8/2011 at 7:22pm
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There is something about good weather in the summer holidays that brings out the worst kind of campers, I almost look forward to rain being forecast so as to deter the noisy fair weather campers :(

We were at a site last week which was very popular with families. Now I have a child myself, so have nothing against families. However this particular site seemed to specialise in groups of mothers who came with gangs of children. Again, I'm a simgle Mum so nothing against them either.

But why do these people think it is appropriate to allow anything up to 20 or so children from their 5 tents to play cricket, football, badminton and cycle on the site itself. People were trying to sit and eat and football's were flying around their heads left and right, and cricket balls were getting hit some considerable distance on to other unwary campers.

What are the mothers doing? Having a nice glass of wine and a chat.This goes on until the kids go to bed around 10.30 and then the mothers continue to get louder and louder as the wine kicks in.

Not once were the children asked to be respectful of other people's tents etc. Not once were they asked to keep the noise down. Like I said, I'm not anti kids or single mothers, but I am anti inconsiderate campers who arive in packs and take over the camp site ruining it for everyone.

Eventually, once I realised that the noisy yummy mummys were oblivious to the disturbance they were causing, I went over on my way to my bedtime teeth cleaning and said "You do realise you are disturbing people trying to sleep on the far side of the field". they unsurprisingly did seem genuinely surprised, and were quieter. But why can't they work out themselves that people are trying to sleep. and noise travels in an open field?



02/8/2011 at 7:26pm
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Quote: Originally posted by lewic on 02/8/2011

I don't have a problem with people sitting up chatting til the early hours - its supposed to be a holiday, not a boot camp! To me part of the pleasure of camping is chilling out with my mates in the evening with a few bottles of wine, and yes some outdoor lighting is essential. I think it is totally unreasonable to expect complete darkness and silence - I do wonder why some people go to campsites when they would be better off in a field in the middle of nowhere (or at home with their sleep mask on). Personally I am not keen on hearing screaming toddlers who don't share their parents love of camping.. but hey thats what earplugs are for!



I think the problem comes when the site advertise a quiet time between certain hours, which is then not enforced. If people want to make more noise they should chose a suitable site. Why chose to go to a site with a quiet time after, say, 10, and then be inconsiderate of those who want the quiet time and make a noise.

I chose campsites specifically so I get peace and quiet. If I wanted to camp in a play park I would, but I don't! And believe you me, if I could find a field to camp in with no-one else in I would


02/8/2011 at 8:15pm
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i have just returned from a great 3 days , people in next tent were all tucked up by 8.45pm i just lite BBQ then ha ha but we sat up till early hours talking & having a few beers , i could here them turring & even once they asked if we could be quite , well we were not making a noise but said yes ok i think it was 10.30 ish , well i enjoy sitting out till early hours but never make much noise , in 42 years of camping never been told to be quite , possibly if people want this quite they need to be in there own field

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02/8/2011 at 8:23pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Davy J on 02/8/2011
i have just returned from a great 3 days , people in next tent were all tucked up by 8.45pm i just lite BBQ then ha ha but we sat up till early hours talking & having a few beers , i could here them turring & even once they asked if we could be quite , well we were not making a noise but said yes ok i think it was 10.30 ish , well i enjoy sitting out till early hours but never make much noise , in 42 years of camping never been told to be quite , possibly if people want this quite they need to be in there own field


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02/8/2011 at 8:33pm
 Location: Atherton Manchester
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We've just come back from a weekend with neighbours from hell.  Saturday morning we were woken at 6.30am by this womans grating voice (we usually are early risers and when we are, we don't go around banging pots & pans and talking at a million decibals).  Saturday afternoon, another tent arrived and pitched between ours and their gazebo - their car was in front - it was so close we were nearly touching. I certainly don't mind people sitting chatting until early hours, but when you have heard the boot of their car open, close, alarm set , lights flashing about a dozen times and its 2.45am and its right outside your bedroom, you do get a tad pee'd off.  After I shouted for them to shut up, they came back with they have to get things for the baby.  I appreciated the fact they had a baby with them and they required things for it but you would have thought that the tinned baby milk, nappies, all the things you would normally need for a baby would have been taken inside the tent especially during the night 


02/8/2011 at 8:54pm
 Location: Gateshead
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Ha ha thought Camping was a outdoors thing a chance to Mix etc Not to go to bed when the sun is still shinning , think some people get campsite & a farmers field mixed up ha ha well happy camping , PS: I will purchase ear plugs in case next tent needs them ha ha , But we don't make loads of noise

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02/8/2011 at 10:10pm
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TALKING quietly in the early hours is fine. Shouting and laughing loudly isn't. What is the point in going on holiday if you can't sleep then have to spend each day bleary eyed and tired. It is entirely possible to have a chat and a laugh and even be drunk without making a nuisance of yourself.

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Quote: Originally posted by morgz84 on 02/8/2011
TALKING quietly in the early hours is fine. Shouting and laughing loudly isn't. What is the point in going on holiday if you can't sleep then have to spend each day bleary eyed and tired. It is entirely possible to have a chat and a laugh and even be drunk without making a nuisance of yourself.


My sentiments exactly.

No-one is saying people shouldnt have fun on holiday, but a bit of consideration for the people in the thin walled accomodation next door and around the field is hardly rocket science.

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02/8/2011 at 11:35pm
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Obviously people are going to have differing opinions about what is, and isn't acceptable - the trouble is that these kinds of post end up as a circular argument, going round and round .

In my experience it's really easy to tell if you are behaving badly.

1. If the rest of the site is quiet at night then YOU should be quiet too.

2. If your children are running/shouting/riding right beside another tent they are going to annoy someone.

3. If you walk too close or through someone's pitch they are not going to be pleased.

What is really wrong these days is that wrongdoers start off by doing something they shouldn't then try to defend their behaviour by claiming that others are miserable/party poopers/too fussy etc.

They somehow feel it is their right to holiday how they want - and deny the rights of others who want a quiet time - the sad thing is of course that the quiet ones never offend the noisy ones so the noisy ones do not get to experience a spoiled holiday !

None of this is innocent as everyone knows when others are disapproving don't they ?

The spoilers simply choose to carry on behaving badly !



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02/8/2011 at 11:55pm
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Quote: Originally posted by the giraffes on 02/8/2011

Obviously people are going to have differing opinions about what is, and isn't acceptable - the trouble is that these kinds of post end up as a circular argument, going round and round .

In my experience it's really easy to tell if you are behaving badly.

1. If the rest of the site is quiet at night then YOU should be quiet too.

2. If your children are running/shouting/riding right beside another tent they are going to annoy someone.

3. If you walk too close or through someone's pitch they are not going to be pleased.

What is really wrong these days is that wrongdoers start off by doing something they shouldn't then try to defend their behaviour by claiming that others are miserable/party poopers/too fussy etc.

They somehow feel it is their right to holiday how they want - and deny the rights of others who want a quiet time - the sad thing is of course that the quiet ones never offend the noisy ones so the noisy ones do not get to experience a spoiled holiday !

None of this is innocent as everyone knows when others are disapproving don't they ?

The spoilers simply choose to carry on behaving badly !




Absolutely spot on


03/8/2011 at 12:02am
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Quote: Originally posted by jdlovescamping on 02/8/2011
Cliff n Pat.

Is that site Dolgamedd nr Dolgellau? If it is we gave up on it several years ago due to noise. We had camped there when the previous owner used to come round in his little red van. My parents had caravanned there for years. Then when it was taken over, we had a couple of trips spoilt by noise into the late hours, which was a shame as our children, would play for hours in the river. Further up the hill is a site called Llwyn yr Helm which is lovely and we have been going there ever since. I just think it was a shame really, but Dolgamedd just got too big and it spoilt it for us. Believe me, 20 years ago it was idyllic.

Julie

Hiya Julie, yes it is, to be fair the family were nice as pie & we only had hassle at Easter BH when every man & his dog is on a bender for 3 days, the reason we stopped going was purely & simply the price, it just got too ridiculous. Might try the one you mention though.

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03/8/2011 at 12:09am
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I think its just a sign of todays society and the complete lack of respect.
As for having a good time whilst on holiday if it were a package holiday to Spain or even a weekend in Blackpool usually the noise is confined to the nearest bar not the nearest bedroom which in effect is what camping in tents is on a night-time and people should be mindful of that fact.



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