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If you go for the 4kw and want a side wall exit I will probably sell my red one soon (can't really justify having 2!) if you are interested

Is there really much difference in size, I found my stove could not cope when I used it this week with only one sleeping pod fitted. The extra air space was too much for it. I suppose I'm saying, go for the bigger stove.

Either way, it's worth it.

had seen these stoves before...what a great website.

sadly couldnt use one in our tent

I've seen a photo comparison of Val's stoves and the 5kw is quite a bit bigger than the 4kw! KP sells the 4kw for the same price as the 2.5kw and it is a couple of inches taller. The 5kw is bigger all round.

I'm going for the 4kw in my 5m bell, for 2 adults and 2 children. I figure if we are camping in winter, we would want EHU anyway so heating could be supplemented with a small radiator. During the summer, when camping without EHU, hopefully the stove would be enough on it's own - we don't normally have any heating in the summer, so this will be a bonus! Plus we will have the inner tent - I aim to position it to the side to allow room to use the stove at the same time (this is all theoretical at present as I haven't even pitched the thing yet!)

Don't forget Val is a hardened winter camper so needs the extra kw's