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15/3/2012 at 12:12pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Dinkydeb on 15/3/2012
I might be the first - have one I use occasionally and keep tripping over the b****y thing ....
A few years ago I attended an indoor fair and as I stood talking to one of the stall holders I became very aware that one of my trouser legs was on fire. Somebody had placed a small camping type gas heater on the floor next to the stall and I just hadn't seen it. I was stood right next to it. Fortunately I had fire retardent trousers and they just smouldered and melted a bit 
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15/3/2012 at 1:06pm
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Good point Bob61 . The other thing is gas it's self won't kill it may make you feel ill but it want kill . It will how ever go bang if ignited witch could kill . Gas is naturally odourless and the smell of gas is man maid so leaks etc can be detected .
The gas we used to use in our homes known as town gas or coal gas would kill if leaking or you decided to put one's head in the oven .
There are risks while camping but the biggest must surely be getting to site in the first place .
The main risk from CO poisoning seems to be a charcoal BBQ second would be a faulty appliance . The appliance risk being minimal due to the fact they get turned off .
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15/3/2012 at 4:00pm
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Bob61 you are worse than me.
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16/3/2012 at 1:28pm
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There are some interesting views expressed in this thread; and also some relevant observations in this parallel UKCS thread.
My point in the OP was not that campers should never use any form of heating in a tent - rather, I was pointing out that they need to be aware of the risks and aware that some forms of heating are more dangerous than others.
As always, the best advice is be well-informed, be reasonably cautious, use your common sense, and do not misuse appliances.
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17/3/2012 at 12:54pm
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I know someone who did his own testing. He bought one of the cartridge type heaters, you see so often these days. He decided to see how safe it really was, so he put it in his dining room, switched it on & left a carbon monoxide detector/alarm directly above it. He closed the door & windows & left it for about 3 hours.
The alarm never went off. He then went into the room & sat in there, with the door & windows shut, working on his computer, for a further hour or two. Still the heater was going (I can only assume he changed the cartridge, as many of us will know just how much gas they get through) yet still the CO alarm failed to go off & he felt no ill effects.
People have been using gas appliances in tents for decades with little problem. These appliances are perfectly safe, so long as they are used properly, with a little common sense (which seems to be sadly lacking these days!)
The fact that these "accidents" are still happening actually angers me. Only 3 or 4 days ago another person died & his wife is in intensive care, because they were ignorant enough to take their barbecue into a camping pod in Cumbria.
I mean, were all those deaths last year for nothing!!! This pair were supposed to be seasoned campers as well, not novices!
You really can't legislate against stupidity like this. If manufacturers were to put warnings all over their barbecues, people like this would still choose to ignore them. It's Darwinism, of the most tragic order. Especially after all the news coverage & publicity last year.
The mind boggles, it really does.
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