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Persongunman
28/6/2012 at 9:31pm
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I've been looking at getting a new family tent and have my eye on a kampa Sandown. It is listed as having a sealed groundsheet system. What does this mean? I thought it was sewn in but theres a footprint gs available which has confused me. Would you have a footprint gs if there's one sewn in?

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bloomooning
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footprint just keeps bottom of tent clean and gives the sig more protection

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Persondebs398
28/6/2012 at 9:45pm
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I wouldnt be without my footprint, I use it to work out where I want to pitch the tent, keeps the bottom of the tent clean, its so much easier to wash the footprint than it is the bottom of the tent.

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Persongunman
28/6/2012 at 9:48pm
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Thanks, would the Sig cover the whole area inside the tent, ie under the bedrooms or just the living area?


Personkatnant
28/6/2012 at 9:50pm
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should cover everything and then bedroom pods go on top of the sig...


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Person3madboyz
28/6/2012 at 9:56pm
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A S.I.G generally covers the whole of the bottom of the tent and is attached (sewn-in) to the fly sheet, the bedroom pods would then hang independently   
from the roof and sides of the tent via toggles etc and would also have there own sewn in groundsheets for double protection.

The benefits of a S.I.G is that you are basically kept draught free and they help keep out the creepy crawlies, most modern tents are made with a S.I.G (or in some cases a zip-in groundsheet aka a Z.I.G) nowdays.....

The benefit of a footprint is that it is just a tiny bit smaller than the tent's groundsheet, enabling the S.I.G to be kept clean and protected from stones etc.... Highly recommended IMO


Personmcguire6078
28/6/2012 at 10:12pm
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The groundsheet is attached to the whole tent; imagine it is the base of the tent. The added advantage of sewn in groundsheet (SIG) is they will help reduce drafts and will give the tent a warmer drier feel.

A footprint is just a big piece of plastic (made of polyethylene) which the tent sits on, they are either made to measure (can be expensive) or you can make your own. So why would you want a footprint..? Well because the tent has a sewn in groundsheet it will help keep it clean and give extra protection to the base of the tent.

Advantages of footprint:
Keeps the groundsheet of your tent clean
Protects the groundsheet from abrasion and damage.
Helps when pitching as you can see where the tent will go & easy to check for sharp objects (stones/sticks etc) which would otherwise damage the groundsheet of the tent
Clean surface to work on when setting up and dismantling the tent

The footprint should be entirely covered by the tent to prevent rain from being channelled under the floor.







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PersonBoltonLoyal
28/6/2012 at 10:22pm
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I bought a Kampa Cromer 10 (not used it yet :( ) and i was trying to find a footprint to protect the bottom/sig? What exactly are they made of, i'm asking because my pal has a company that makes tarpaulins for lorries and similar, would this be adequate if i had him make me one up to the dimensions of the tent base?

Thanks in advance.


Personarsenaldes
28/6/2012 at 10:33pm
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They are made of polyethelene the same material as builders tarps etc

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PersonBoltonLoyal
28/6/2012 at 10:39pm
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Thanks Arsenaldes :)


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Personfran1000
29/6/2012 at 5:59pm
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I wouldn't use a SIG tent without a footprint. They protect the SIG from damage and are much cheaper than a new tent!


Personmartinjp65
29/6/2012 at 10:07pm
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We have footprints for both of our Outwells and wouldnt be without them if you can get someone to make one out of a lorry tarp this would be a heavy duty one indeed! Another advantage is in planning out which way to pitch without the haslle of moving the whole tent.


PersonHairywol
30/6/2012 at 12:31pm
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Also a convert to footprints - especially useful when camping on wet or muddy pitches. Much easier to hose the footprint down back at home.

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Personjelboy53
01/7/2012 at 10:26am
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Highly recommend a footprint...One of my bugbears in camping is the flimsyness of sigs in modern tents(Though I understand why they are so flimsy) A footprint protects the sig and gives a wee bit of added insulation especially if your lying on the ground as most of us seem to do...

Jelboy.

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I'm not convinced meself, but our big tent just has a SIG for the bedrooms. We almost never put the main groundsheet down, preferring to have the grass under our feet. We tried again with the groundsheet last year & it just got messy the whole time with twigs, leaves & mud.

Our tent's 7 or 8 years old & we've been looking for a new one. what we don't like about most of the ones at places like Go Camping is because of the design of the SIG they have a raised sill at the door for you to trip over. We're not getting any younger, you know!

Liz



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