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Personjogor
04/5/2013 at 6:03pm
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I love my tent - an Outwell Missouri 4 with Glendale side extension and we haven't used it too much.  However, Hubby is now talking about an Outwell Concorde M inflatable "as we are not getting any younger"!  I am rather surprised as he is not as keen on camping as I am, but this could mean more camps!  The thing is the tent costs £1200 and the front extension £500!  Can I justify this?  Has anyone got a Concorde and would the inflatable make life easier? Advice please - what would you do?


PersonTidburyboy
04/5/2013 at 6:32pm
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It depends on what £1200 means to you.


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Have a look at this post from Hankakampa
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PersonDamianL
04/5/2013 at 9:31pm
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I've only seen the inflatables on display at Go Outdoors but personally.. I could win the lottery and still wouldn't buy one. You can get so much more for your money if you go pole design and to be honest, if you think about it. They take 4-8 minutes to inflate depending on the model, then it's pegging and guying which will be the same time as a standard pole tent. Well we have a Zenobia 6 and can get the poles through and pinned in within about 15 minutes... So I don't even see the time saving as a bonus, in terms of ease well.. It's not particularly hard to thread the poles,maybe a bit of strength required but nothing Superman style...

Personally, I couldn't justify the price at the moment. I would reconsider if the price dropped a fair bit though...

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Personthe-laughtons
04/5/2013 at 10:06pm
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What is it about camping that your hubby isn't so keen on?

If he finds erecting a tent a real chore and it's that that stops him going, then it sounds like an inflatable would be right up his street.

But before I spent £1200 I would make sure, very sure, that he wants to go camping.

You could have plenty of weekends away for that sort of money, and not a tent in sight!

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Personjogor
05/5/2013 at 10:24am
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The only reason we thought of making life easier is that hubby has had some health problems and is not as strong as he used to be.  He does like camping but finds some of the setting up quite tiring and I can't do it all on my own. We always camped when the children were young, at home and abroad and as we all enjoyed it so much, we started again 3 years ago. However you never know what's waiting for you round the corner "health wise"!  We do have other holidays, but camping is in my blood!  I think we will go and check out an inflatable, just to be sure. Thanks.


Personcondor
05/5/2013 at 10:41am
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We have just gone down the same road and purchased a Concorde M and front awning. We have used it twice and I admit that the time saving is small because you still have to do everything else after the tent is up. However, it is great to have the tent up in minutes and the benefits of the design then become apparent. The tent is polycotton which makes it very quiet and discrete and the design of the beams with a beam joining each cross support means that the tent is very stable even before being pegged. On the negative side because it is polycotton it is a heavy package. We have a selection of tents and we believe that this has replaced everything we have.


Personjogor
05/5/2013 at 10:48am
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Thanks condor.  Our present tent is polycotton so we are used to the weight and in fact I wouldn't want anything other than that, so it does all sound quite promising.  I am not so worried about the time in setting everything else up, it's just the ease of putting up the main tent. Thanks.


Personhankakampa
05/5/2013 at 1:25pm
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hi jogor

owner of a concorde L!.

if your main point is ease of putting up the tent then yes - its great - but! theres always a but!

the pump - it starts off really easy pumping the handle up and down - and the pump that comes with the tent puts air into the tent on both the up and the down strokes of the handle as your pumping away.

as the tubes start filling with air though and the pressure begins to build, the pump actually starts getting harder to pump.

keep in mind that you ll have been pumping for about 4 mins or so and then it starts to get harder as the pressure increases in the tents air tubes.


i say this because you say hubby has health problems and is not as strong as he used to be.

he needs to be reasonably strong to be able to pump the tent up!


there is an electric inflator available which i believe plugs into your car ( its not an airbed inflator - these dont have the required pressure to inflate one of these tents up ) - this might be a solution for you but bear in mind it costs around a further £100.00 to add to the cost of the tent plus the extension.

my personal feeling is that the tent isnt really worth £1400.00 - its more like a £700.00 tent. but the inflateble feature enables me to put a larger tent up than i would be comfortable doing otherwise ( i struggle with my bear lake although i love it tremendously and to me, in so many ways, its a much better tent - but what good is that when i find it hard to put up on my own?!? )

do you mind me asking you why you dont go for the concorde L rather than the M plus extension?

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Personjogor
06/5/2013 at 12:05pm
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Thank you hankakampa, very useful information.  Actually, we have in fact already decided that if we go for the inflatable, we would go for the L which would save on the extension and of course we already have all the other equipment, tarps, carpets etc.  It's now a case of checking it out.  Thanks again.


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PersonWobblyBob2012
27/5/2013 at 11:45am
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I went for the Concorde L after looking at a couple of other inflatables. Buying it for less than £1200 was just about enough for me to push the button on this. It my first poly cotton tent and also my first Outwell.

After testing the tent in the garden for a couple of days, I'm looking forward to the first outing in a couple of weeks. I'm delighted. Lessons learnt?

1. Whilst it's doable for 1 person, the tent won't simply pop up as you pump away. A second person holding the tent up will reduce the time and effort required pumping (think that you'd be pumping air through a pipe with an obstruction). It's clearly shown on the Outwell video.

2. The pumping itself requires effort. Even with (1) above.

3. I was surprised by the stability of the tent. It's really sturdy without guys - tested in some pretty windy conditions to see how it would cope.

4. Poly cotton is surprisingly quiet.

5. It's flippin' heavy.

6. The "manometer" gauge... Maybe I'm missing something, but the needle doesn't stay still - I inflated until the needle peaked at the pressure I was looking for.

7. I loved the takedown - really quick. No problems with deflation and getting it back into its bag.

At this stage, I'm not sure where I'll cook. The cabin has a side extension which I cooked in (our youngest is 3 now, so we don't need to be quite as paranoid about her straying into danger but I'm not comfortable with cooking in the tent yet). I'll test the various existing canopies and windbreaks that I have.





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PersonCross Camping
27/5/2013 at 12:46pm
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As others have said, its not all about speed but ease. If its windy and you want to put say an Outwell bear lake 6 up its not so easy, the Concorde is so easy. We have done a video with the corners pegged and it then takes about 90 seconds to pitch and if its windy nothing will break. We are looking to import our own electric pumps from Italy for about £75, we've put them on the site if you want to take a look. This is where the one inflation point will come into its own and if you get a bit out of breath pumping the the electric pump would be great.
Gary Cross


PersonWobblyBob2012
27/5/2013 at 2:02pm
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I've added my "inform me" details, Gary. It looks good - especially the pre set cut off feature. This will mean true 1 person pitching on the Outwell.

When can I have one?





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PersonCross Camping
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We think it will be by the end of June, maybe sooner, I want to get a sample and make sure its all ok and do some videos. Im sure it will be fine.
Gary



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