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Topic: Fed up with false claims of "Fully SIG"
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04/7/2014 at 7:39pm
Location: Northern Ireland Outfit: Bell Tent Vango Coleman and Quechua
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Big Fred, why the anger! Pity us poor readers here. It would have been sufficient to say something along the lines of:
Can anybody suggest me a three to four person tent that has a fully sewn in groundsheet, stand up height, separate living and sleeping areas, has a high HH and is under 7kgs.
And the answer is no.
You can get all that and it will weigh a lot more than 7kgs.
You can get some of that and achieve 7kgs. I'm so glad you didn't pitch in with the old 'under £100' malarky too! Honestly, some people want what you want and want it for peanuts too and something has got to give.
It boils down to what you can compromise on. Smallish tents don't have sewn in groundsheets for reasons outlined above. The condensation is an enemy when you are camping and the five to six man ones have sewn in groundsheets by the virtue of lots of internal space and plenty of ventilation.
You can get stand up height and achieve your relatively low weight but not with a separate living and sleeping area. Think all in one dome tents etc.
The nearest I can think of for you, stand up height and two separate areas and at 8.2kgs is the Osaki 3 from Halfords. Now Halfords tents were slated but last year they pulled the finger out and produced better offerings. This is one of the results. It's £99 too. The HH isn't particularly high though and the separate living area is 'compact' to say the least.
Next I can think of is Gelert Cabana 4, it's 11 kg but it is stand up height, does have the separate areas and has a good HH. It's discontinued but still available and at a sale price at Sports Direct. It has a big pack size though.
Then there's the Vango Kalu 400 which is 12.5kgs, it's got everything you want except the required weight, and I can't comment on pack size as I've never seen it.
As a biker, pack size is important too and you don't want to exceed about 60cms.
A friend of mine is a biker and he has two tents, one for the car and one for the bike. His bike tent is a Vango Halo. It's pack size is 40 by 20cm odds which suits him.
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07/7/2014 at 2:10pm
Location: Romford Exssex Outfit: Lots of different tents
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Thanks Moonstone, Sknarf and Frog for the suggestions.
Sknarf I like the Ark DS400 however, the porch area is slightly too small. The reason being that when going camping on a motorcycle 2 up (rider and pillion) I/you need room to to store 2 full sets of biker clothing including helmets, boots, "soft" luggage/panniers and small stove, kettle and other basic items. We keep the motorcycle clothing in the bedroom at night and it doesn't get damp contrary to what Barmstorn and Campermic say.
Moonstone, Thanks the Coleman Instant Tourer 4 looks good and weight is good, easy to erect and roomy but pack size at 103cm long is too long to fit on the back of the bike but as you say
Frog, Now this one looks just right. I very much like the groundsheet arrangement whereby you can have half & half IF needed. At first when I searched for this Wild country Etesian 4 I was somehow directed to the Wild country Etesian 3 and the Youtube video for that shows the 3 doesn't have a groundsheet at all, good job I noticed it before checking elsewhere this reply or I would have written the Wild country Etesian 4 off.
Campermic. Thanks also. Looking at the Gelert Cabana 4 this one is a contender too. The "anger" is because, as I say, a lot of manufacture's list their tents as having a SIG when its not and I'm fed up going to shops with displays to look at a particular tent only to find it doesn't have a SIG. Also by wording the this the way I have I thought others who may feel the same as I would reply if they agreed.
I fully understand the condensation problem being a long time/experienced camper it's MY choice to want a SIG after years of being without one and fed up with wind and rain coming into the living area.
Barmston. I know,,,! As I say, "its MY choice" to have a tent with a SIG so why look for one without ???
We went to GoOutdoors in Lakeside yesterday only to find that their display area was closed for viewing and only had 4 or 5 tents on display anyway.
------------- Rain is only a pain it ya tent leaks. After 40 years still looking for the perfect tent
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