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05/7/2014 at 6:52pm
 Location: Near Sleaford
 Outfit: Karsten Opera 2400 & Instant tourer 4
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Hi all,

I've spent all afternoon looking around the display at Cross Camping, a few miles off the M11 Junction 11 SG8 6EY

So, I've been looking at replacing my tents with a good quality Poly-Cotton or Canvas tent for a while and I spoke to Gary (Cross Camping) and James (Camping Travel Store) last week who told me they were having this exhibition.
James has bought a very wide selection of Cabanon and Karsten tents and they are all on display as you drive into the garden centre.
Now it is about 1.5hrs drive from me but as I wanted to see the Cabanon Barbados actually pitched thought it would be well worth the trip.
Thought it would be also nice to see the Karsten's in the flesh as I've never seen one.
So got down there about 14.00 and had a good look round all of the tents, the Cabanon Barbados is very nice but has two very large bags!
I know the Guadeloupe is only one bag but still large and heavy.
We then spoke to James&Suzie for at least an hour about the Karsten tents and going through the features and how they can be tailored to suit what you want.
James then deflated the 280 POD and pumped it back up then we attached the comfort awning, James then attached the rain awning to the front of the Comfort awning.

It's not until you see these tents do you fully realise just how good they are and the quality is just amazing.
I thought the Cabanon canvas and ground sheet was good but you can still feel the difference between them and the Karsten.
Quite incredible, and you can definitely see why they cost so much money.

So he's me looking for ages now, and maybe going to buy a Cabanon Guadeloupe for about £650.
Then end up buying the Karsten 280POD in light green with comfort awning for £1400

Yeah bit of a shocker, but the speed of pitching the relatively small pack size for an inflatable and just the sheer quality made it worth buying.
I would sooner stop messing about and spend more on quality....and so I did!

The Wife and myself have never really been interested in the inflatable tents and the wife never had much faith until we saw this!







The rubber tube is extruded in one so no joins anywhere. The webbing mesh that goes round it is very strong.

So we bought this one but in light green:-
It shows the 280Pod with comfort awning attached, just zips in very quickly.








Myself and James looking into the 280POD



This shows the interior size of the 280pod with a single SIM laid out:-



A couple of the other tents, although there are many more on display that we didn't get photos of:-





If you've never seen a Karsten tent try and get down to see these on display
James has bought quite a few with lots of different attachments and configurations and colours.
It's not until you see them and feel the quality of the groundsheet and canvas do you realise just what you're paying for.
It may take you a couple of hours to get there but as these tents do cost a lot of money it's well worth the fuel and travel time to see them in the flesh.
It was also great to meet James and Suzie and they do spend loads of time talking you through everything, which included the taking down and erecting of the POD.
A very happy and satisfied customer.

If these are a bit too expensive nip over to Gary in Cross Camping and see all of his tents on display, then go into the garden centre for a nice drink and in our case the scones were very nice!

Just waiting now for mine to be delivered and I will report back with a review in the review section.

Cheers

Ian

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05/7/2014 at 7:56pm
 Location: Shropshire
 Outfit:  Karsten 3m with sleeping unit Kos 6
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Great photos & a great choice.
Am i biased ? yes sure am lol

I'm sure you will have many great camping trips.

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05/7/2014 at 8:03pm
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Excellent!

Nothing so simple for us, unfortunately, and we'll be making our 3rd visit in 4 months tomorrow. Still a few mods and bespoke requirements we need to discuss/sort out. Once we know whether Karsten will supply what we want, we are fully expecting to finalise an order by September (10% off standard "Off the shelf" items, but not modified/bespoke).

Why is my life never simple!!

Enjoy your new tent, Ian, when it arrives, and don't forget more pics when you get away in it!




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05/7/2014 at 8:17pm
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The more I see pics of Karsten tents, the more I want one. Thanks for sharing the pics!

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05/7/2014 at 8:25pm
 Location: Near Sleaford
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Quote: Originally posted by dk168 on 05/7/2014
The more I see pics of Karsten tents, the more I want one. Thanks for sharing the pics!

DK



Wait until you see them in the flesh and actually get chance to pitch one and just generally have a play!
It's no turning back then, they suck you in...or is that James and his good selling?
Although to be fair they sell themselves.
I had no intention of buying a tent, any tent for that amount of money, but while you playing and testing and looking you just see quality.
That Karsten tent that was on Ebay the other week, was quite an old one and that still went for £1000.
So yes expensive but to me it really is an investment.

No problems with the photos.

Cheers

Ian


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05/7/2014 at 8:29pm
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Mucker,

May I enquire what spec you are hoping to get please?

At this moment in time, I am thinking of a 300, with a Sleeping Extension, Comfort Awning, Rain Awning and may be the Combi-Awning too. I'd like an inner tent for the sleeping extension, however, it may be too costly an add-on.

DK

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05/7/2014 at 8:37pm
 Location: Leicestershire
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Congratulations Ian, great tent. Thanks for taking the time to post your pics, especially the ones showing the construction of the tubes, very helpful. Would be interesting to see or know the details of the construction of the tubes in the mass market Outwell's / Vango's etc by comparison. Never managed to find a pic of an Outwell airbeam
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05/7/2014 at 9:02pm
 Location: Near Sleaford
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Quote: Originally posted by Jim1977 on 05/7/2014
Congratulations Ian, great tent. Thanks for taking the time to post your pics, especially the ones showing the construction of the tubes, very helpful. Would be interesting to see or know the details of the construction of the tubes in the mass market Outwell's / Vango's etc by comparison. Never managed to find a pic of an Outwell airbeam
Jim



Hi Jim,

This video shows a Vango airbeam pole that exploded.
You do get to see what the tube looks like, with the tent material also ripped that goes round it!

I have to say the tube does look a little on the thin side.

Cheers

Ian


05/7/2014 at 9:10pm
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AS I've not seen any reviews or anyone else who has the 280Pod, which is 2.8m square thought I'd post this as I'm 5ft 10" or 11" something around there.



I'm actually standing up OK under the comfort awning which shows it is quite roomy.
I can always buy the rain canopy later which can just zip on as shown in the photo.
The front wall can also be added to this as well.

Cheers

Ian


05/7/2014 at 9:15pm
 Location: Leicestershire
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Thanks Ian, that Vango beam looks more like a plastic bag - I know Vango had problems with the early ones but no doubt the construction of the current ones, and those in my Outwell, are still much the same and rely on the surrounding jackets to provide the strength to stop things going pop!!


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05/7/2014 at 9:20pm
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Quote: Originally posted by dk168 on 05/7/2014
Mucker,

May I enquire what spec you are hoping to get please?

At this moment in time, I am thinking of a 300, with a Sleeping Extension, Comfort Awning, Rain Awning and may be the Combi-Awning too. I'd like an inner tent for the sleeping extension, however, it may be too costly an add-on.

DK



The main one is extending the sleeping extension, to take camp beds. Still waiting for Karsten to confirm they are happy to do it. Last I heard, James was in the process of producing a drawing for them. I've told him there's no rush, and as he's busy with displays and all these folk actually putting in orders and paying up, I'm not even sure if he's sent it off yet!


Other things that need confirming (more what the finished article is going to be like, rather than if they'll do it, as it seems they will) are things like windows to main pod door, and zip across the bottom of the door. Flat front to the awnings (the standard flat front on the tunnel tent doesn't reach the floor, as it has a bath-tub SIG. However, an available pic of someone else's flat front to awning shows it reaching the floor, plus mud flaps, so just need to emphasise my requirements). There's then the matter of having the awning zip on my 350 needing to be the size they are on the 325/300, so I can swap awnings and sleeping extension around as required (and therefore the smaller awnings). Add in our requirement for messing around with colour schemes, and all in all... nothing is straight forward, as virtually nothing is standard!!

I must add, James has been an absolute star, although I suspect his face will drop when he see's us wandering over again tomorrow lunchtime!!

I've felt the need to promise him there will be a definite order, once everything is finalised, as I feared otherwise, he'd be tempted to tell me to eff off!! Talk about awkward customers!!

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05/7/2014 at 9:23pm
 Location: Near Sleaford
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Quote: Originally posted by dk168 on 05/7/2014Mucker,

May I enquire what spec you are hoping to get please?

At this moment in time, I am thinking of a 300, with a Sleeping Extension, Comfort Awning, Rain Awning and may be the Combi-Awning too. I'd like an inner tent for the sleeping extension, however, it may be too costly an add-on.

DK



Hi DK,

This picture:-

Shows I think it was a 325, although it could have been a 300! with bedroom extension, comfort awning front wall and rain awning.



It was expensive I can't remember exactly how much now though.

Cheers

Ian


05/7/2014 at 9:28pm
 Location: Derby.
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Quote: Originally posted by wiggy25 on 05/7/2014
Quote: Originally posted by Jim1977 on 05/7/2014Congratulations Ian, great tent. Thanks for taking the time to post your pics, especially the ones showing the construction of the tubes, very helpful. Would be interesting to see or know the details of the construction of the tubes in the mass market Outwell's / Vango's etc by comparison. Never managed to find a pic of an Outwell airbeam
Jim



Hi Jim,

This video shows a Vango airbeam pole that exploded.
You do get to see what the tube looks like, with the tent material also ripped that goes round it!

I have to say the tube does look a little on the thin side.

Cheers

Ian





WOW!!
We use thicker bags in our loo bucket!


One of the quotes I made, after seeing the Karsten for the first time, and leaning on a pole, was "It's like leaning on a lamp post"!
A, they are solid, and B, that material used in making the tubes is extremely similar to what we line clapped out industrial gutters with... which comes with a 20 year guarantee!



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05/7/2014 at 9:33pm
 Location: Shropshire
 Outfit:  Karsten 3m with sleeping unit Kos 6
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Dk we have the set up you are looking at .... i must say its plenty big enough for the 4 of us.

4 being ...hubby, daughter 23, daughter 10 & myself.

For 1 it's going to be huge.

I say plenty big enough & we came down from a 9 man tent!

I suppose it depends on how you like to camp...we like the girls to have their own space as we have a 10 year old that s going on 25 & my 24 year old has special needs & likes to have ..'her' time & space with this in mind we still feel we have enough room to live comfortably. We just split the sleeping unit into 2 each then have thier own side & we slept in the main pod. Only used the tent in good sunny weather so sat outside morning, day & night. But still feel we would have enough space even if we had to sit inside the awnings on wet days.
I think you need to get to see the Karstens in the flesh just to appreciate the space they do give.
Ian also has a good point about the money that second hand/ older tents fetch ...ours is from 2005 & you would really think it had not been used it is fantastic condition for it age & if the awnings were of the newer design we would have argued that they were new!
If any one ever wants/needs to see one in the flesh & are local or want to travel to us ( Shropshire ) we would be more than happy to show you our ' home from home '.

Maddie


05/7/2014 at 9:44pm
 Location: Near Sleaford
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Hi Maddie,

Agree with having to go and see them!!!
Just recently we've been using a small Coleman instant tourer 4.
We've sat under the tarp just about all of the time cooking and reading and I just really enjoyed it.
So I wanted another smallish tent so I could do the same thing, so went for the 280, there really wasn't a great deal of price difference between this and the 300!
Pack size came in to the equation then.

Cheers

Ian


05/7/2014 at 10:43pm
 Location: Essex & Suffolk border
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