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28/1/2016 at 8:27pm
 Location: lincs
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hey guys and girls
I have an outwell bear lake6 pollycotton tent which I need to improve its year round weather and storm resistance from all the extreme weather here in scotland.
the tent is permanently pitched and im at the stage where I could easily strengthen and improve its resistance towards the strong winds and rain.
ive thought of using a thick pvc clear reinforced 40mgm tarp big enough to secure over the top and sides down to the ground, the other solution was to build a cover type structure for it to sit under like a canopy.
im not too keen on applying treatments to it as ive never done and not needed to its never leaked.
any tips and advice would bee great
cheers best wishes
mick from Scotland

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28/1/2016 at 9:37pm
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If you cover the tent, just make sure the tarp doesn't rub against the canvas in high winds etc or it could scuff it, or even rub a hole in it.


28/1/2016 at 9:41pm
 Location: Sweet Home Inversneckie
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Far out. Or Fad a-mach, as they say in Inversneckie. Why would you want to leave it permenantly pitched. Must be fecking freezin.   
Are you living in it? If so make sure any cover still allows the fabric to breathe otherwise the condensation will be desperate.


28/1/2016 at 9:49pm
 Location: lincs
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Quote: Originally posted by lidds0 on 28/1/2016
If you cover the tent, just make sure the tarp doesn't rub against the canvas in high winds etc or it could scuff it, or even rub a hole in it.


hi lidds0 thanks for your response great.
I will definately think on that point thank you, it does leave me wondering its best to allow a breathing space between the two materials then for that purpose and also to allow the pollycotton to breath I dont want to risk mould getting to the cotton, but thankfully outwell designed it to have an external type aluminium frame which im wondering could just be enough to hold a tarp off. I wont be able to use the side doors and windows but ill take that over risking the tents safety. will replace existing supplied pegs with much better ones and maybe slightly thicker guy ropes too but I know its well designed dont want to change too much
cheers again and best wishes mick


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28/1/2016 at 9:55pm
 Location: lincs
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Quote: Originally posted by Rhj296 on 28/1/2016
Far out. Or Fad a-mach, as they say in Inversneckie. Why would you want to leave it permenantly pitched. Must be fecking freezin.   
Are you living in it? If so make sure any cover still allows the fabric to breathe otherwise the condensation will be desperate.



hey Rhj296
thanks for replying.
I dont live in it, I spend quite alot of time though, cold is difficult but it dont worry me like the strong winds do tbh, but its quite warm considering lol
I definitely dont want mould the cotton does breath so condensation has never been present in it. plenty of blankets on the floor and a fold up camp bed which keeps me away from the ground and a quality sleeping bag and blankets again its ok.
cheers mick


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28/1/2016 at 10:19pm
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Why not use a cotton or polycotton tarp to reduce risk of condensation?

Alternatively, Outwell now manufacture roof protectors - I'm not sure if they do one for the BL but maybe worth checking - which would surely be a faster and more reliable option if you fancy an additional layer?

I can recommend stainless steel Delta pegs for all your guy ropes. Then, your tent ain't going anywhere!


28/1/2016 at 10:28pm
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Here you go. There doesn't seem to be one specifically for the Bear Lake but this website does give sizes so if you check your measurements there might just be something ready made which will do the job and not damage your tent.


28/1/2016 at 10:28pm
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 Outfit: outwell bear lake 6
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Quote: Originally posted by lidds0 on 28/1/2016
Why not use a cotton or polycotton tarp to reduce risk of condensation?

Alternatively, Outwell now manufacture roof protectors - I'm not sure if they do one for the BL but maybe worth checking - which would surely be a faster and more reliable option if you fancy an additional layer?

I can recommend stainless steel Delta pegs for all your guy ropes. Then, your tent ain't going anywhere!


hi lidds0
thanks for response,
great idea to use a second polycotton layer will almost be similar to having an old fassioned inner tent, makes sense with condensation too and almost silent as opposed to thick pvc.
and yes great ill look at the storm pegs too, I understand though by strengthening one part can then creat a weak part somewhere in another area of the tent, I know the loops are sewn into the tent maybe best to keep existing guy ropes and upgrade to storm pegs thanks alot
best wishes mick



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28/1/2016 at 10:33pm
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Not just any old storm pegs though, try Delta stainless steel pegs. A bit pricey but they last forever and will hold your tent firm.


28/1/2016 at 10:35pm
 Location: Isle of Mull
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Have a look at the material used in the Sheilings campsite at Craignure - they also sell the things as drying tents and they can certainly stand up to our winds. Not suggesting you go for anything like it, but may find the way they anchor and no. of peg points helpful when thinking of the tarp plan.

LiddsO point about a ventilation gap is vital both from tent damage and condensation point of view (mistake with boat in first instance and tent in second ).
    

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28/1/2016 at 10:58pm
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Quote: Originally posted by lidds0 on 28/1/2016
Here you go. There doesn't seem to be one specifically for the Bear Lake but this website does give sizes so if you check your measurements there might just be something ready made which will do the job and not damage your tent.


its great to see outwell thinking this way they are a top company and reasonable pricing here too many thanks
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28/1/2016 at 11:05pm
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Quote: Originally posted by ficklejade on 28/1/2016Have a look at the material used in the Sheilings campsite at Craignure - they also sell the things as drying tents and they can certainly stand up to our winds. Not suggesting you go for anything like it, but may find the way they anchor and no. of peg points helpful when thinking of the tarp plan.

LiddsO point about a ventilation gap is vital both from tent damage and condensation point of view (mistake with boat in first instance and tent in second ).
    


hi ficklejade,
I cant believe you mentioned those sheilings at craignure, megga place mull we go every september and stay at glen forsa in a super cottage right next to the airfield its superb had megga holidays there, the times weve talked about staying in those sheilings lol, I love it and the regular ferrys that cruize in and out right past the camp site its a megga location, the craignure arms is one of the best pubs on the island had many an afternoon and evening sat outside there brilliant spot. my tents pretty good compared to those sheilings which I believe are around 3k each, but brilliant idea to check out thier anchor point systems they stand all year round true!!
small world isnt it.
best wishes mick


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28/1/2016 at 11:09pm
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Quote: Originally posted by lidds0 on 28/1/2016
Not just any old storm pegs though, try Delta stainless steel pegs. A bit pricey but they last forever and will hold your tent firm.


hey thanks for that info lidds0,
ill definately take a look, nice to get info like this especially when theres so many crappy pretend products around, apreciate that.
thanks mick



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