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18/3/2017 at 10:59am
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Before I heard all this stuff about detergent ruining waterproofing I always wiped off my tent with the towels I had been using during my camp. This was to get rid of the heavy dew and allow it to dry more quickly before packing it away when it looked dry enough. I have to say that I never noticed any problems with the waterproofing and despite the risk I still wipe off the tent if necessary. I worry more about mould and mildew than taking off the DWR.


18/3/2017 at 1:09pm
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We have always used towels of some sort to dry down any tent before packing. We tend to use the "Trek Towel" kind of thing but we only ever wash them in water with nothing else. If possible we tend to do this in conjunction with the washing machine having gone through a cleaning procedure prior to the washing of the towels.

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18/3/2017 at 10:39pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 17/3/2017

A cotton canvas tent is different in that it is self waterproofing. When the fibres get wet they swell enough to prevent water getting through the weave. A bubble or film of water covers the micropores of the material and acts as a barrier preventing water penetration. If you touch the inside of a canvas tent it will start leaking at that point because you will have broken that film of water...detergent will have the same affect. However, if the area is thoroughly scrubbed of detergent then it will be waterproof the next time.

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Nooooooo!!! Detergent WILL impact on the cotton canvas, as will any scrubbing! Just use good old plain water and totally avoid any detergent.


18/3/2017 at 11:15pm
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Quote: Originally posted by lidds0 on 18/3/2017
Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 17/3/2017

A cotton canvas tent is different in that it is self waterproofing. When the fibres get wet they swell enough to prevent water getting through the weave. A bubble or film of water covers the micropores of the material and acts as a barrier preventing water penetration. If you touch the inside of a canvas tent it will start leaking at that point because you will have broken that film of water...detergent will have the same affect. However, if the area is thoroughly scrubbed of detergent then it will be waterproof the next time.

Post last edited on 17/03/2017 22:52:54



Nooooooo!!! Detergent WILL impact on the cotton canvas, as will any scrubbing! Just use good old plain water and totally avoid any detergent.



That's what I said...thoroughly scrubbed of detergent...not with detergent. Or to put it in plain English...wash the detergent off


19/3/2017 at 11:49am
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V meticulous, Mucker. Something to think about. I usually swish at the water with a tea towel. Often one we have been drying up with, and that will definitely have detergent on it. I will change that!

I am also going to start gently mentioning it to campsites that stock bubble mixture in their shops.


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21/3/2017 at 7:24am
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Quote: Originally posted by DeborahTurner on 19/3/2017
V meticulous, Mucker. Something to think about. I usually swish at the water with a tea towel. Often one we have been drying up with, and that will definitely have detergent on it. I will change that!

I am also going to start gently mentioning it to campsites that stock bubble mixture in their shops.




i do that too - i tell campsite shops about the bubble mixture - but i find it falls on deaf ears because the assistants at the tills are only interested in what time they get to go home / check their lastest facebook updates etc... and wouldnt know a tent peg from a tent pole ...

unless you get hold of the site owner / manager - and some of them only see it as an extra income - sales of things for the kids is big business to some site shops.

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21/3/2017 at 1:27pm
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Quote: Originally posted by hankakampa on 21/3/2017
Quote: Originally posted by DeborahTurner on 19/3/2017
V meticulous, Mucker. Something to think about. I usually swish at the water with a tea towel. Often one we have been drying up with, and that will definitely have detergent on it. I will change that!

I am also going to start gently mentioning it to campsites that stock bubble mixture in their shops.




i do that too - i tell campsite shops about the bubble mixture - but i find it falls on deaf ears because the assistants at the tills are only interested in what time they get to go home / check their lastest facebook updates etc... and wouldnt know a tent peg from a tent pole ...

unless you get hold of the site owner / manager - and some of them only see it as an extra income - sales of things for the kids is big business to some site shops.



I guess the next step then is to mention it in a site review? Something along the lines of "I mentioned it at the start of my stay, and they removed it from the shelves straight away/it was still stocked on the shelf 7 days later. when I left"!

At least the review reader would then be aware of the situation, and can weigh up the "risk" themselves, as to whether it seems to be the sort of site they'd be happy to stay at?

Sometimes, t'interweb can be a powerful tool!



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21/3/2017 at 3:14pm
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Site reviews is a good idea.

Also reviews and awareness on other camping websites.

And camping blogs.

I might get a notice to put outside my tent: Bubble Off!




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