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Subject Topic: Where can I get an inner? Post Reply Post New Topic
07/7/2018 at 3:02pm
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Hi everyone, I just bought a second hand Kalahari 8 tent and it wasn't until I just put it up that I realised the guy has sold it to us without an inner! Husband thinks it will be ok to use without.....I'm not so sure. Does anyone have one I could buy? Or know of where I could get one?


07/7/2018 at 8:21pm
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well you should be asking the person you bought it from really esp if it was from ebay and they never said it was missing, but failing that its a hi gear tent from go outdoors, but good luck getting someone in there that knows what you/they are talking about


10/7/2018 at 8:33am
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I agree with your hubby Jilly,you can use your tent with out inner bedrooms.We don't always use ours in fact most of the time we leave them out and its surprising how much more space it gives you.

Bedrooms/inners were once only found in Frame Tents now most tents irrelevant of size have them.

Go camping have great holidays and enjoy your tent :-)



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Thanks for the advice surfin. I'm an absolute novice camper but the tent does have a ground sheet sewn in so I guess that's the main thing. Now I have to tell my husband that he's right haha


10/7/2018 at 11:42am
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You can buy generic tent inners off amazon etc - I like a "bedroom" but obviously not essential


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10/7/2018 at 11:51am
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We have a kalahari 8 - just a little tip make sure any site you go to will take such a big tent ! Without bedrooms in it its so big you could play the last day of Wimbledon in it.


10/7/2018 at 2:32pm
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Don't be too hasty congratulating that there husband just yet...


First off, I believe in this instance, we are talking about a polyester tent, on which my following thoughts are based...


Re "inners used to be rare but now very common" type comment... I'd say that's because most tents are now sealed, with sealed/sewn-in groundsheets, unlike yesteryear.

Bedroom inners tend to be breathable. They form an insulation barrier (of air) between the inner and the fly sheet, effectively making the bedroom warmer than the living area (A bit like the air gap between the two layers of bricks that form the shell of many houses, but not as effective!).

In the case of polyester tents, which I believe the OP has, the groundsheet and flysheet should be totally waterproof... which means no moisture comes in... and no moisture goes out!

Someone on here can recite just how much moisture an average person breathes out during an average nights sleep... I can't remember the details, but I do remember being flabbergasted when I read it. Let's just say, it's "quite a lot"!!

Now... with the aforementioned breathable inner... "Quite a lot" of warm moist air rises up from our breath, through the inner, hits the colder waterproof barrier that is the flysheet, turns immediately to water, which is too heavy to cling on, so drips... landing on the inner, and soaking in to it, drying as the sun comes up/doors get opened in the morning.

Now... without the aforementioned breathable inner..."Quite a lot" of warm moist air rises up from our breath, directly hits the colder waterproof barrier that is the flysheet, turns immediately to water, which is too heavy to cling on, so drips... landing on your sleeping bag/nose/tomorrows clean fresh clothes/loaf of bread/dog's tail/ child's last tee-shirt/loo roll next to the bucket etc, etc! (Delete as applicable).

So, "Quite a lot" of moisture, x number of people breathing through the night = To avoid disaster, keep every single vent fully open, and every single finger crossed, as the vents might not quite be enough to keep you dry through the night!!

NB(1):
Breathable fly sheets can allow your breath to escape, hence some cotton canvas tents don't require an inner (e.g. mine!)

NB(2):
That moisture doesn't always necessarily turn to drips upon contact with the cold polyester... I guess in certain scenarios, it could just turn to ice!


In a nutshell... Sounds a bit risky to me!!



... and anyway, unless the ad stated it came with no bedroom inner, it strikes me as a mis-sale/not fit for purpose type scenario!
I don't tend to buy used camping goods, so no idea how a claim for a refund would go, but that would be my first port of call.


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10/7/2018 at 5:21pm
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Mucker makes a good point there about the condensation and your tent has high vents at each end that if you block them may risk condensation but used properly may cause some draught through and inner would solve. For what they cost I'd get one.


12/7/2018 at 10:47am
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I would prefer to have the inner! I really don't want to be dripped on in the night. Can anyone help with what I should be looking for? Would any old tent inner fit?


12/7/2018 at 10:32pm
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Sort of -:just go online and buy an inner - you may need to extend the ties with bungee cord (don't use string it'll sag )   If it's for two of you buy a three man one. If it's not a perfect fit honestly your tent is so big you won't notice. Search tent bedroom on amazon and there 's what you need (or tent inner)



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