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Subject Topic: Tarp setup to act as a tent porch Post Reply Post New Topic
Persontoto77
19/10/2021 at 6:20pm
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Hi - firstly, apologies if this is a repeated question. I had a search but couldn't find exactly what I needed.

I am looking for advice on using a tarp to extend my tent slightly. Something to provide what is essentially a porch area. The trouble is, I'm stuck as to how to go about it. I'm hoping someone might be able to advise.

I have a Big Agnes UL3. It's a small-ish tent that I use for overnight camping. I like it because I can put it plus a simple tarp up in about 10-15 minutes. Makes single night camping and backpacking doable.



Now the tent fly does provide a vestibule but it's naturally quite small. For the times that rain is forecast I would love to be able to set up a simple tarp over the front so that I can cook, sit (on the floor) etc. without getting wet.

The more I think of it, the more I wonder precisely how I'm going to do it. The options I see are:

A frame tarp over the whole thing. Trouble is, it just seems overkill. I'm effectively duplicating my tent:



I could have a side-on a-frame tarp which connects just above the front side. The problem with this is water flow. In the picture below the rain water running off the tarp onto the tent is going to make it's way down the tent entrance:



Finally, I'm thinking of perhaps a Wing tarp like this below. Problem is, I tried this. There is no way of having the tarp tight around the tent and then going up to a point on the tarp pole without having the middle bit flapping around:



Right now I just don't know which way would be best to go. I guess you could say just buy a tent with a porch but then I lose the flexibility of tarp + tent and, of course, I need to be able to carry everything in a backpack.

That's pretty much it. I think sufficiently over-thought this now :)

Thanks



Personmarg6
19/10/2021 at 7:29pm
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what about using something such as a fishing shelter such as this one, https://www.sportsdirect.com/diem-shelter-783001?google&cq_src=google_ads&cq_cmp=10653976948&cq_term=&cq_plac=&cq_net=g&cq_plt=gp&gclid=CjwKCAjw2bmLBhBREiwAZ6ugo6JPSoM7F1vm3umrhhlB9LT7DCyWnEfhSRr5mGMQeEB0JuP4NYY-5xoCHXMQAvD_BwE#colcode=78300199

they pack up quite small and hardly any weight in them


Persontaafe75
20/10/2021 at 9:13am
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Theres a little Zempire tarp on Ebay recently that might suit your needs


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For what it's worth I use the sort of setup in your last photo with a ddhamocks 3 x 3 tarp and two tatonka poles.

Have a look at

https://webshop.acsi.eu/en/campingcard-acsi/campingcard-acsi-2022.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw2bmLBhBREiwAZ6ugo3bcbv6-gSglnFGMyOrtVlK2g6z9SMiRANYraVRfQ41GoocrNO1MmhoCkKQQAvD_BwE

for the Tatonka tarp poles.

They are not cheap but very well made and the poles stack inside each other.

I would also consider running a line from the front pole / poles over the top of the tent and tied to a suitable tree etc to allow a better tension and take the tarp load off the tent.

Post last edited on 20/10/2021 14:25:57


PersonBramston
20/10/2021 at 3:50pm
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Most lightweight tarps are square or rectangular.
You want one that is 5 sided, either as a pentagon or as a square with a triangle added on one side.
The/or a point sits above the top of your tent while the rest of the tarp projects over your doorway supported by the one pole.

You will need 6 guy lines and pegs, one from each corner and one from the point where you secure your pole opposite the point on the top of the tent.

I have one from Vango like this and have used it successfully in SW France where you need shade and air. They don't appear to be selling it right now.

Have a look at this one:
https://www.awin1.com/cread.php?s=440107&v=3549&q=211961&r=62066=&p=https://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/15985183/oex-expedition-tarp-15985183

It's somewhat overpriced compared to a 3m square one (sold without a pole or pegs) but it should do what you want.

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Personmartinmeatpie
20/10/2021 at 9:29pm
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Hi There

If you have bought the footprint why not just unclip the inner at one side and fold it back. Sit on the footprint with the stove at the doorway. Use branches or walking poles to open door.




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Personseanfdh
20/10/2021 at 9:35pm
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Vango make two or three tarps which are designed to be used with their trekking tents. One of those might be a fit for your tent with a bit of bodging.

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PersonBramston
24/10/2021 at 6:14pm
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Here's a link to a photo of my tent with a Vango tarp in SW France in 2018.https://im-a-puzzle.com/tent_2018_32ysyn345.puzzle?st=em
It's in a puzzle format so have fun.

The Vango Pulsar tent has Gothic arch poles and an extended flysheet with side doors so the tarp extends sideways from the tent from the door on one side.



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