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11/4/2006 at 12:29pm
 Location: Blackpool
 Outfit: Outwell Montana 6
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From another post it now seems that it's nearly impossible to put the Monty 6 back into the wheeled bag....

Anyone got any tips for this ? (2006 bag appears to be smaller ?).

Also, I put the tent up at the weekend, but being a bloke didn't read the instructions until afterwards.... Are the poles and sleeves colour coded, or are they all identical and interchangable ?



11/4/2006 at 1:03pm
 Location: Essex
 Outfit: Vermont L Nebraska XL and Montana 4 6
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Well on the Outwell site the instructions say that the Montana poles and sleeves ARE colour coded.  My Monty 12 is definitiely not.  There is no colour on the poles at all, and all the sleeves are the same colour.  It may well be different for the 6 and 4.

The bag is a total pain in the bum.  I have managed to get it back in but with a great struggle.  It makes me laugh watching the Outwell video on their website when they fold it at the end with the bag already for it to go into.  I really would love to challenge those people to come camping with me and do it that easy with my Monty 12 2006, especially when there has just been a downpoor.

I am currently sourcing a 2005 Monty 12 bag for mine.  I have emailed OASE and am waiting for a reply to see if they have any in stock and the price.  I will post on here when I find out.

The other thing I worry about with the wheeled bag is that the wheels will definitiely break one day ( they arn't very strong ).  When they do, it is going to be a real pain to carry the tent being as there is now no shoulder strap and just a handle at each end.  The wheeled bag looks excellent on paper ( I thought it was a great idea ).  That was until the first time I had to get the tent back into it.  Very badly designed.  I have been out on 4 trips now with it and struggled everytime.  Yesterday I had a few goes in the garden at getting it neatly and easily back in the bag and so far I cannot find a single easy method.  When its wet then forget it completely.  I have currently got it back in the bag but it is bulging everywhere and I just know the zip is going to give way.



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11/4/2006 at 1:10pm
 Location: South Wales
 Outfit: Outwell Montana 6(2006) -Venture 500
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Hi

We put up our montana for the first time on Sunday.We just managed to get it into the bag.You need to bring the two sides into the middle and then fold in half again,get as much air out as possible by leaving main door open and rolling as tightly as you can.

The poles seemed to be identical to us,

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11/4/2006 at 1:30pm
 Location: hopton nr great yarmouth
 Outfit: montana 6 2006 model
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Carrying on from ev08, we also have pitched our monty 6 (I say we, I actually managed to do it on my own, which filled me with confidence.) To get it back in the bag (similar to ev08) I fold in half length ways, then into thirds leaving the doors, including bedroom pods, open a couple of feet to help the air escape. Then tightly roll from the back to the front so the air can escape from the front door (it won't work rolling from the front as you end up with a monty shaped air balloon) If it's still not tight enough, unroll and roll again. First time was a pain but 2nd and 3rd have been a lot easier although I agree the bag should be a bit bigger.

Hope this helps and good luck!

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11/4/2006 at 1:44pm
 Location: Essex
 Outfit: Vermont L Nebraska XL and Montana 4 6
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I manage to get it in the bag with a struggle ( Montana 12 ) except when it is wet.  The first 3 times after a few attempts we managed to ram it into the bag but with a lot of strain on the zip ( not sure of the difference in bag size between the Montana 6 and 12. In the shops they look the same size but with the actual Montana 12 being a little bit bigger in material ).  The biggest problem arises if you have to pack the tent away wet.  The extra bulk of the water makes it nearly impossible to get it neatly into the bag.  I ended up having to try and dry it and then it rained again before we tried again.  Eventually we just rolled it up and put it into the boot of the and put the bag seperately.  I took it home and dried it out and it again went back into the bag ( again with a struggle ).  If they had made the bag just a little bit bigger it would have made all the difference.

Just had a look at the Outwell website and the pack sizes are the same.  I guess it is the same bag for the Montana 6 and Montana 12 with different writing on.  But the Montana 12 has a little bit more material than the 6.



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13/4/2006 at 10:20pm
 Location: herts
 Outfit: Montana 6 (2006)
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Just got back from our trip and the best way is to stuff the tent in the boot and figure it out when you get home!!!

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13/4/2006 at 11:46pm
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haha gotta laugh a tent bag with wheels very handy NOT come on they are useless in mud you be dragging it and why bother in first place do you park up 500 yards way from your pitch or 10 feet when making camp! outwell gone and out done them selfs on that one.

btw if the tent is wet when packing take the bedrooms out and pack them in somat else thats what we do, it stops the mould if you dont get the whole thing dried out when you get back due to the weather, the fly dont suffer like the bedrooms do.

have fun with your wheelie bins err bags


14/4/2006 at 6:50pm
 Location: Staffs
 Outfit: Swift Challenger 490 SEL & VW Tiguan
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Fold it, whatever, way to a width a few inches short of the bag length. Fold 18" over, then fold that as tight as you can, you literally have to sit on it. Then start rolling but keep it very tight as you roll. When you get towards the end its a case of stopping and sitting on to expel any air. We can fit our tarpaulin, (used underneath to protect the SIG) inside the bag of our Montana 6 as well. A couple of ratchet tie downs might help to squash it further...  



14/4/2006 at 7:33pm
 Location: Blackpool
 Outfit: Outwell Montana 6
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I posted the original question about the bag.

Had another go in the cold light of day... Easy-peasy !

Make sure bedroom doors undone before you collapsee the tent.  Make sure entrance doors are partly undone, to allow air escape.  Fold it in half width-ways (i.e. the shortest bit!).  Then fold that part into 3.  Roll it tightly from the bedroom end (helps if someone is ahead of you moving the air along).  Unroll, then re-roll.  Sit on the roll to get the last air out. 

Fits straight into the bag!



14/4/2006 at 7:36pm
 Location: Wolverhampton
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Easy when you know how. Well done


We do as above but without unrolling and re-rolling, does help that I sit on it at 14st!

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15/4/2006 at 9:26am
 Location: Blackpool
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erm, I'm over 16 stone, so perhaps I really needn't bother with the re-rolling step !?


15/4/2006 at 10:41am
 Location: hopton nr great yarmouth
 Outfit: montana 6 2006 model
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I'm a 10 stone weed and I've not yet had to sit on mine. It's all about keeping the tightness going when rolling. If you let go for a second you may as well start again.

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15/4/2006 at 4:27pm
 Location: Preston Lancashire
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Just like to add that the monty 4 comes in the same size bag as the monty6, We did the old stuff it in the boot trick. 3 days later when the guy ropes had finally dried, we rolled it from the inner tent to the door end to let the air out, then just about managed to get it back in the bag, It is in the hallway now and at any minute, i am half expecting the zip to burst and spill it's tenty contents all over the floor.

So if i struggeled to get the monty 4 into the bag you people with 6's must be miracle workers.

I also agree with the bag thing, the wheels are great but how about a strap that you can actully put it with.

I am currently scowering the shops looking for plastic box with lid big enough to fit tent in and then the bag will be straight in the bin.



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15/4/2006 at 11:42pm
 Location: Essex
 Outfit: Vermont L Nebraska XL and Montana 4 6
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For information, I am told that the Monty 6 bag and the Monty 12 bag are one and the same.  A mOnty 6 should go back in the bag slightly easier than a Monty 12.  The bag for the Monty 12 is a real pain in the butt, totally useless and virtually impossible to pack if the tent is wet.  What seemed like a good idea at the time is a nightmare.  I am awaiting a reply from Outwell about getting the bag for the 2005 model.

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