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23/5/2006 at 4:48pm
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I have just walked in from work to hear my wife on the phone, apparently struggling with a conversation. I know that she was going to try and sort out a new tent today, so was more than surprised when she handed me the phone and told me, quite upset, that she was talking to Casey's Outdoor Leisure, who had just told her they refused to sell us a tent 'at any price'. I took the call, and a very angry and abusive lady yelled that she 'did not like my wife's 'tone' and had no tents for sale! When asked, very calmly, to outline the problem, she refused to do so. When asked what price her company would charge for the tent in question, I was told she had no intention of telling me because she would not sell to us.

My wife is entirely shocked and deeply upset and I am bloody angry. There is no way on earth that my wife would have been rude, or abusive, as was the behaviour coming our way from this assistant.

This response is absolutely unbelievable. HOW can an internet seller respond to a buyer in such a manner as this. I thought we had had problems with Aspinalls but this absolutely takes the biscuit.

This is the email which we have just sent to Casey's. It says it all, I hope:

 

Dear Sir or madam,
 
I should just like to point out that I am absolutely astonished and deeply upset that your assistant, Helen, has just put the phone down on me whilst I was trying to arrange an order and, when I subsequently rang back to find out what it was all about, I was told that she 'would not sell me a tent'!.
 
Firstly, I telephoned earlier this afternoon to see if you have in stock a Cabanon Biscaya 500 tent plus sun canopy, and was informed your computers were showing stock, but that you would have to check.. I asked if you could price-match with other suppliers (having been quoted £1200, delivered, by the Norwich Camping) and was told you would ring to confirm the quote and get back to me.
 
After around half an hour, I telephoned again to see if you also stock Khyam Igloo tents, hoping to add to my order, and was informed that you did not. I was also told that you were still checking to verify that you had the sun canopy in stock, and would get back to me.
 
After another three quarters of an hour or so (with me sitting by the phone and needing to go and do the school run) I telephoned, apologising for having to press the matter, but asking if things had yet been confirmed, whereupon I was informed,, in a rather nasty manner, that you were not, after all, prepared to match the price. When asked why I had been made to wait whilst you checked stock if you were not prepared to price match in the first place, a very angry Helen informed me that she would not sell me a tent and promptly put the phone down on me!
 
I immediately telephoned back, and asked what on earth that response had been all about, whereupon a seemingly seething Helen informed me that she was not prepared to sell me a tent at all and that I was unreasonable. I asked her how so, and at what price Caseys are marketing the tent if they are not prepared to price match, whereupon I was told - in no uncertain terms - that the tent is 'not for sale to me at any price'!!!!!
 
I am, simply, dumbfounded. Helen refused to quantify her apparent anger and animosity towards me.
 
I was, up until that point, actually thinking how helpful and friendly Caseys were being, and hoping that we could do business. I was also thinking of posting a positive report on ukcampsite.co.uk, where we are members - it is always nice to pass on positive feedback and especially after we have encountered such negativity from another supplier, recently.
 
I informed this lady that her response and behaviour were deeply shocking, and totally unwarranted, and that I would post on ukcampsite to warn other potential buyers. Angry response was that she would respond and damn me!
 
I am entirely at a loss to understand this unprovoked and unwarranted situation. I am genuinely sorry if I have been the cause of such vehemently nasty response in your salesperson, Helen, but fail to see how. I was simply seeking to secure a good deal on an (expensive) tent, and with earliest delivery. How we have ended up at this point is astonishing  and your comments would be much appreciated.
 
Yours sincerely,
 
As this 'Helen' told me that, if my wife reported this on ukcampsite, she would post retaliatory response (I fail to see how she can justify such rude and unprofessional communication), I daresay you will soon hear from them.
 
This is not a joke. It is a deeply disturbing and unwarranted attack on my wife and myself and it cannot be right.


23/5/2006 at 4:57pm
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there is no need for rudeness HELEN manners cost nothing, didnt your mother teach you that??

 

Liddenham, sounds like the 'sales' person, couldnt be bothered to price match IMO,



23/5/2006 at 5:08pm
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Fair enough, but why agree (said "we can't better price ut we can match...just have to confirm and will ring you back") then get really nasty and tell us she "has no tents for sale to us"????!!!!!

My wife is very very upset. Doesn't everyone search the net for best deal on tents etc? Nothing my wife did warrants this type of aggressive behaviour. For goodness sake, we were about to part with £1200 to this company and post positive reviews! This is madness!



23/5/2006 at 5:12pm
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would like to see their response


23/5/2006 at 5:41pm
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I agree lidden, no need for that at all


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23/5/2006 at 5:45pm
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what happened to good old customer service, well their loss , i would deal with another company

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23/5/2006 at 5:47pm
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I assume Helen is new to the retail world or she would know the customer is always right. I suggest that her employers send her on a course in Customer Relations as her skills in that department seem to be sadly lacking.

I have worked in Retail for nearly 10 years now and before that also dealt with the public in another position for a number of years, and I have NEVER come across such a display of bad manners and unprofessional conduct such as this before. Casey`s Outdoor Leisure should apologise immediately for their employees disgraceful attitude, Helen should be disciplined in whatever form Casey`s have in place for this sort of behaviour (in my opinion a slap on the wrist is a little inadequate) and your order should be dealt with immediately and definitely price matched!



23/5/2006 at 5:56pm
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Anyone who produces that sort of response when faced with the possibility of a £1200 sale needs a very firm word from the boss, if not outright dismissal. Though perhaps Helen is one of the bosses?

It will be interesting to hear the response to your email, plus any direct response here. In the meantime, I hope your missus is feeling less upset. Remind her that there are some pretty odd people out there, but the majority are nice folk!

I presume your tent order has gone to Norwich Camping?



23/5/2006 at 5:56pm
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have you got an email address for them and we could all express our concern to them


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My wife was a health care professional, and has worked with people from all walks of life, with whom she has real empathy. I have never witnessed her being rude to anyone, and we have been together for 23 years now! She might have expressed her disappointment that Helen had kept her waiting all afternoon for nothing, but certainly would not have been rude about it.

Just for the record, another retailer,  NORWICH CAMPING telephoned after this silliness, and communication could not have been more different. RYAN spoke to my wife at length, and had no problems at all in agreeing the price which Casey's had just got in a such a state about. He was helpfulness itself, courteous and informative. Just a pity he does not have the tent for immediate despatch! We might just wait and go with him - did want a new tent for next week but not from a retailer with such appalling communication skills.



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23/5/2006 at 6:02pm
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enjoy your new tent from NORWICH CAMPING,

and dont let a silly woman with no manners ruin the enjoyment of buying a nice new tent



23/5/2006 at 6:04pm
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PS
Norwich Camping had agreed the price previously but had no stock for immediate despatch (hence the contact with Casey's), Ryan actually rang back to night to say he had communicated with the manufacturers, and to let us know when he could expect to place an order / receive goods. If he had the stock we would place an order in a jiffy as he is client-centred and a good communicator.


23/5/2006 at 7:09pm
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Has anyone else EVER encountered anything like this, with any retailer?


23/5/2006 at 7:10pm
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Definitely not and if I did they would be the last retailer to get my money as a matter of principle!


23/5/2006 at 7:11pm
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Well,

not without a lot of grovelling from them and a HUGE discount as a gesture of goodwill !



23/5/2006 at 7:13pm
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have you seen the ABC threads, maybe they all went to the same customer sevice traing school......

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