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1. With the knot, either learn how to tie a bowline (see below) or use a figure of eight - do a normal knot, but give it a twist before the final thread.

http://www.hightrek.co.uk/climbing/how2/bowline.htm

I find this site excellent and its easy to follow dont know if the knot you need is on there though.

http://www.animatedknots.com/index.php

Quote: Originally posted by WelshDai on 08/7/2006

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I find this site excellent and its easy to follow dont know if the knot you need is on there though.

http://www.animatedknots.com/index.php

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Quote: Originally posted by Rikk on 08/7/2006

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2. Oh this is going to sound soo dumb...How are you supposed to use the guy runners, the little plastic bits on the guy to tension it? It dosn't seem to matter how or in what direction I try and pull the rope through to tighten the guy the rope just won't move through.


        ...........Rikk

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Nope this is not a dumb question. I have been a camper for 20 years and I STILL have to go through the routine my dad showed me on my first tent, when working out how to pull the guys through the runners on a new tent.

I hold the runner in a vertical position, with the knot of the guy at the bottom and facing away from me, then I know it is the LOWER part of the guy rope threaded through the runner, which will be on the side of the runner facing me, that I need to pull into a loop to put the peg through......