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03/9/2006 at 11:55pm
 Location: Plymouth
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Quote: Originally posted by sibrig on 03/9/2006
Quote: Originally posted by Rob Orr on 03/9/2006

For somebody to say, after all these years of useless tent pegs that "my tent was twisted because the pegs were so effective" is beyond me


Rob, you've hit the guy peg on the head there!  The thing is that with inferior pegs, in those conditions the tent would have gone a long time ago because the pegs would not have held.  Because the Deltas stay firm, the tent remains until the forces of nature rip it apart............  Deltas rule!

Thanks Sid. Sometimes I think I'm banging my head against a wall. Sometimes I do actually bang my head against a wall.

 



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04/9/2006 at 12:15am
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Quote: Originally posted by Rob Orr on 03/9/2006


I can't see why any sensible person would pitch or peg out a tent improperly. Those using three guys on  one peg are probably using tri-guys. Those connecting all of their guys to one peg are probably insane.

For the record, I saw a tent with seven...yup, seven, I counted.... guylines connected to one peg on my last camping trip. And yes, it was a weedy wire peg, and it was only knocked half way in. It was like that all the way round...huge 12-man SunnCamp dome and all the guylines were crowded onto about a dozen pegs in all. Plus they hadn`t pegged out the back compartment at all, but just left it loose. No, they hadn`t just arrived...they were there for eight days. I`ve never seen anything like it!

( I was desperate to take a piccy, but they were very scarey looking people....)



04/9/2006 at 12:34am
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Hi

I have heard from some regular campers about putting the thick rubber bands on the guys to give better flexiblity, they say that these rubber bands act like shock absorbers, the guys are pegged out as normal and these thick rubber bands allow the tents and poles to move without stretching the guys or the fabric to breaking point.

 Steve. 



04/9/2006 at 12:37am
 Location: west midlands
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 my ridgi-pod excelsior and delta pegs were fine on the west coast of ireland although on of the caravans was nearly blown over  called out at midnight to help stake it down. I had absolute confidence in my delta pegs after that.



04/9/2006 at 7:05am
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Well!!! I have read about bad design of pegs and tents with some blaming both - what is going on here!!!

We have the Scenic 5.0i and have had it up in some pretty stiff winds - 20 - 25 mph on the East Coast using Deltas with no problems at all - Now these winds are quite 'stiff' by the met offices standards and really just about the maximum for any tall tent. These tents are not designed for extreme weather! No matter what the manufacturers website says! If the weather forecast is for gales then who in their right mind goes camping and expects a tall tent to cope with it*rolleyes*

If your going to go extreme camping then have the right equipment for it! Have you seen the price of the 4 season tents! You have only paid a fraction of the cost of them so why expect your tent to do the same job!

Delta Ground Anchors Rock!!! (or dont as the case may be)

Outdoor Revoloution LEISURE tents Rock as well!!!

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04/9/2006 at 8:23am
 Location: London
 Outfit: SunncampVario 6 NorthFaceTrailhead 6
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Time to get back to Marshy90's original question perhaps.  He has been very unlucky having one new tent stolen and another wrecked by extreme weather on his first trip (it is more or less still summer ).  Is his tent fixable?  Would Outdoor Revolution supply replacement poles? Should he be looking for a bargain tent in the end of season sales or call it a day and wait for lovely new tents next season?

The Scenic 5.0i looks to be a quality tent, as I said before I have been thinking about getting one, with steel poles and a sig the obvious alternative seems to me to be a montana 4 but thats still £200 currently - a lot to pay when you have already lost 2 tents this year!  Maybe you could negotiate an extra discount on a new Outdoor Revolution tent - yes it was extreme weather but its the end of season?



04/9/2006 at 9:53am
 Location: South Devon
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Quote: Originally posted by gwasanaeth on 03/9/2006
I am going to order some delta pegs before I go away again (sept 15th) and I am going to investigate the Khyams (expensive) as I would like to keep on camping as long as I can (October??). 

Wise move, gwasanaeth.

Delta pegs AND a Khyam, you can't go wrong !!!!



04/9/2006 at 10:00am
 Location: Newton le Willows LANCASHIRE
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I'm not saying Delta pegs aren't any good, in fact I wouldn't use anything else. A previous poster made a good point in saying that perhaps heavy rubber bands would be a good idea to form a shock absorbing capability. When the structure is 100% rigid the wind will cause damage at the weakest point which in my case was the frame of the tent. In my opinion the tent has a basic design fault. It was a Coleman Sahara 8 and the basic structure is 3 boxes on four support columns. There is no lateral support whatsoever which I've seen on some tunnel tents and the whole tent is just too *bendy* Yes. I did pitch *narrow end* into the prevailing westerly wind but the wind changed direction to blow from the north and wrecked the tent. 


04/9/2006 at 10:10am
 Location: South Devon
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Our Khyam has bungee elastics on the guy lines, they work very well.



04/9/2006 at 10:06pm
 Location: Northants
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Quote: Originally posted by nicke on 03/9/2006

Deb, did you notice how the large tunnels coped.  We have a Sunncamp Vario 6 which is quite tall with a flat front and I am a bit nervous about how it would cope with really bad winds.


I saw a tent similar size/shape to yours which coped really well with the wind this weekend, it hardly rippled. The folks inside did secure it with extra guys but they had no probs with it.

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