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Subject Topic: Erecting a Coleman Magellan 9 Post Reply Post New Topic
20/1/2007 at 1:38pm
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After much searching we bought a Coleman Magellan 9 in the January sale. It looks like a well specified tent with plenty of space for a family of five.  Anyone got any experience of this tent - particularly putting it up?  Can it be done by one person? Anything I need to pay particular attention to? 

Thanks for any advice.

Nick.



20/1/2007 at 4:34pm
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I have seen this at various exhibitions last year and I think it is a great tent with good specs, so good choice there.  - just out of curiosity, how much did you pay? (Have seen it at £319).

In terms of putting the beast up, I have not got direct experience with this model, but looking at the layout, my guess is that most steps can be done solo, but I think there is one bit which will need two people. I don't know how much experience you ahve so I have assumed zero - if  what follows is too insultingly simple then please accept my apologies.

I think it goes like this. Having laid out the fabric at your chosen plot and got it oriented so you know which bit is which....( you can work this out by locating doors/windows )

1. Put the metal poles through the diagonal sleeves to create the cental dome area.

2. Put the fibre glass dura-wrap poles for the bedrooms and porch through their sleeves.

(NB the poles and sleeves will most probably be colour coded to help you match them up correctly). I think there is a fabric top cap to fasten over the crossing point of the dome poles (this will be because there is a mesh area there for ventilation and the top cap keeps the rain out).

3. The one moment that I think will need two people - one of you gets inside the tent by crawling in through the door and lifts the poles at the centre of the dome where they cross over. (This is the safest way to do this bit. Trying to lift that amount of fabric just by pushing the poles up could lead to damage.) Once standing inside holding it upright, the person on the outside needs to run around and fasten the feet of the poles in place. I can't remember the fastening mechanis, but it will either be an eyelet that the pole slots into, or a metal pin that goes up inside the hollow end of the pole.

4. Once the tent is up, it is a question of ensuring it is where you want it ( and "walking" it around into place if not) and then pegging it out, starting by securing the pole feet. There may be tension bands between the pole feet to help you work out their optimun positions. Then you can pull the corners of the tent out in straight lines from the secured pole feet. Doing it this way should minimise sagginess (though the first law of camping is that there is always ONE sagging bit, usually because of uneven ground...at least that is what I blame!)

With a tent this size you can do the pegging out solo but if two of you do it together it is easier to get the tent properly tensioned (because two of you can grab 2 opposite corners and pull them to tension simultaneously, thus ensuring that it is square-on.)

 However, it is perfectly possible for one person to do this pegging and tensioning, you just have to ensure that you are being logical and methodical (start at one end and work your way down both sides, don't just circle round or attack randomly,  or you can end up all squewed!)

Also, make sure you have closed all the zips before pegging out, otherwise you could put too much tension on the fabric and find that you can't close the zips.

5. Then peg out the guy ropes, pulling them out in a straight line to the seam they are attached to, for max stability.

6. Attach inners (? if it has separate inners...I can't remember)

7. Put yer bedroom and kitchen kit in there.

8. Open a beer!



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20/1/2007 at 7:45pm
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Foggers and Dick.

Thanks for the helpful advice. I'd already planned on the beer part...

In answer to your question, we managed to get one for £240 plus £5 delivery, which made the choice easier, as I couldn't even find a Magellan 6 for that price.  I also thought the extra hassle of lugging and erecting the 9 would be outweighed by the benefit of more space, even though there are only 5 of us (three under 6). Hope I'm right.

In terms of price, the 9 version seems to be going for any thing from the RRP (£449) downwards, though haven't seen any other web store selling them for under £300.  Presumably, they're an old model (hence being discounted) but it shouldn't make much difference I'd have thought.

We're now facing the challenge of what else we need (we are new to this, as you rightly guessed).  Perhaps you could advise us on a few things:

1. Are these self inflating mats worth the money?

2. What sleeping bags do I need for summer camping (2 season? or is it better to assume cold weather?)

3. How far ahead should we book campsites (do they get booked up for the summer as early as now?)

4. Any recommended campsites in the Wye Valley/ Forest of Dean area?

Regards,

Nick.

 



20/1/2007 at 9:55pm
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Hi there Nick  - that was an excellent price for the 9 berth! Not sure if they are discontinuing it.

In terms of equipment it can be tempting to buy the best of everything. I would say that it is important not to scrimp on your sleeping gear, as a good night's sleep is essential. The self inflators were first developed by makes like Thermarest, targetted at the serious mountaineering market where weight and pack size and performance are crucial. The ones made by Outwell and Vango are good,  but for me i need lumbar support and would need one of the deep 5cm ones rather than the thinner 2-3 cm ones. A few people on here say the Fat Airic is a fine cheaper one.

We usually use a Coleman Comfort double chamber airbed - great for eliminating that seasick rocking sensation when one of you gets up! Children will be fine on a foam sleeping mat or one of the cheaper self-inflators.

Again, for sleeping bags there are lots of good quality resaonable priced ones out there. It is best to go for a 2-3 season one as night temperatures even in summer can drop (depending on altitude, wind chill,  and degree of exposure of the site you are on). The main shoices are the flat envelope style bags, versus the mummy style ones that are tapered and have a hood. The hood is great for cutting out drafts, but some people find the shape restrictive. Again, there are now models that combine the best of both, like the Vango Astrals which are wide all the way down AND have a hood. Sleeping bags are often shown with a temperature rating, defining the lowest temp they would be okay in, and a comfort range. I would look for ones that go to at least -5 degrees. Argos do a range that are fine, and you could also look for bargains in camping shops that are clearing out 2006 stock.

You can get great bargains in places like Lidl, Aldi, Argos and Poundland for chairs and torches and picnic kit. You can improvise with cooking kit from home at first, though it is more convenient to have a separate pack of pans, plates. cutlery etc that is just boxed up and ready to go. Do make sure you get a good cooker though - gas appliances need to be good quality!

And with little ones, a night time loo is a good idea - cheapest arrangement is the bucket with lid (£5 from Mothercare) with a splash of zoflora. (Search these boards for discussions about the BWL versus portapottis etc)

Booking a site is a good idea if you are after a very popular site, or at peak times like bank hols and school hols.

I have a book which identifies a great site in the Forest of dean, around Symond's Yat. I will see if I can find it on the lists here. The site search facility on here is great because it gives you real reviews from people, so it is easy to get a realistic picture and work out what is best for you. Sites come in all styles so you may need a few trips to work out what is your ideal. Some folks want night time entertainment, a swimming pool, a shop, a chippy, a bar etc and some want a basic site with a tap and loo; most of us are somewhere in between!

If camping is all new to you, I would advise that you try a short break less no more than an hour from home for your first try out - and not too far in the wilds. Then you can get to the shops for anything you have forgotten, and dash home if there is a major disaster. As you have little uns, if you have garden space to put the tent up (a good idea to check it and have a practice anyway) you could also try sleeping outside in it, to help them get used to the idea and introduce it gradually.

Good luck with it all - you have made a good choice for family hols, and found the best website in the world to help you!



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20/1/2007 at 10:29pm
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Quote: Originally posted by foggers on 20/1/2007

I have seen this at various exhibitions last year and I think it is a great tent with good specs, so good choice there.  - just out of curiosity, how much did you pay? (Have seen it at £319).

Bargain Price of £209.99 from world of camping on ebay at the mo here!



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22/1/2007 at 3:40pm
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Blimey - good old World of Camping.....some other good bargains on their ebay shop too.

 

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22/1/2007 at 4:06pm
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Even cheaper

.... http://www.worldofcamping.co.uk/shop/Detail.asp?ProductID=1170



22/1/2007 at 5:21pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Nick M on 20/1/2007
1. Are these self inflating mats worth the money?

2. What sleeping bags do I need for summer camping (2 season? or is it better to assume cold weather?)

3. How far ahead should we book campsites (do they get booked up for the summer as early as now?)

4. Any recommended campsites in the Wye Valley/ Forest of Dean area?


Lots in the Equipment and Campsite sections which will help on the above (there is a current one on Self-Inflating matts); worth having a look in there.

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Big Bunny
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