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i like good looking tents (looks is a personal thing)

i love the khyam tourer tents the 400 is better priced and sized for  my family & 2 children but the 600 would be fab just for extra storage

but now i have been lured towards the outwell hartord L tent and its super accessories all matching

nice wind break (i have old scratty ones) an add on portch (fab for wet weather) the groovy carpet

ooo what do i do

who out there has these tents? or valueable opinions please:

the hartford L 2006 with extension, footprint , inner carpet & windbreak pack for 299

are the footprints & carpet worth the extras?

if you like the Outwell, go for it. Nice tent.

If you are tight on budget then there are lots of bargains out there which would save you money from your £299.

For example., you could get a 2006 Wynnster Hawk on-offer for around £140 - SIG, two big bedrooms (bigger than the Hartofrd L). Which would easily leave you £80 for a Day Room and another £80 in change. And I would rather have a seporate Day Room for safe cooking and evening socialising than any tent extension.

I can think of a few other options, besides the Wynnster.

Just a thought, as said, if you like the Hartford, it is a fine tent, go for it.

You could also get the new Vango Kirkwood 400, for £200, which is equal in size to the Hartford L, but has a big advantage over the Hartford in that it pitches outer-first; which, to me, is a big bonus with this size/design of tent.

http://www.outdooraction.co.uk/acatalog/VANGO_KIRKWOOD_TENT_RANGE__2007_.html

Quote: Originally posted by Big Bunny on 26/1/2007

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If you are tight on budget then there are lots of bargains out there which would save you money from your £299.

For example., you could get a 2006 Wynnster Hawk on-offer for around £140 - SIG, two big bedrooms (bigger than the Hartofrd L). Which would easily leave you £80 for a Day Room and another £80 in change. And I would rather have a seporate Day Room for safe cooking and evening socialising than any tent extension.

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i have thouhgt before maybe  another tent for cooking etc, but the thought of pitching 2!! most sites seem to charge yet more on pitch fees for extras which puts me off, which is my 2 don't get pup tents untill they are too big anyway

i can get the hartford L 2005 cheaper priced at 149  - but the extras don't match

Quote: Originally posted by QUONG on 26/1/2007

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The Outwell just knocks the Khyam for six when it comes to quality. Better designs, better quality materials.

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Quote: Originally posted by Big Bunny on 26/1/2007

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 but has a big advantage over the Hartford in that it pitches outer-first; which, to me, is a big bonus with this size/design of tent.

 

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this is where my in-experience shows

i do not consider such things

i don't think i have ever pitched a tent with inner first

i want a new tent to replace my cheapy ones

i am now going to be a student for 3 years so camping will be our only holidaying while on a budget

we need a good tent that will hopefully last the 3 years - for 10 day main break & odd weekends

Quote: Originally posted by cooper clan on 26/1/2007

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Quote: Originally posted by Big Bunny on 26/1/2007

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 but has a big advantage over the Hartford in that it pitches outer-first; which, to me, is a big bonus with this size/design of tent.

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this is where my in-experience shows

i do not consider such things

i don't think i have ever pitched a tent with inner first

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If it is raining and you are pitching inner-first, the inner will get wet until you get it covered. If it is small easy tent, then it does not matter so much, as you cna be quick. However, if itis a big tent, then obviously the more time you don't have the flysheet on, makes for a wet inside.

A tent pitching outer-first obviously means the inner stays dry, as you put the inner up after the waterproof outer is up.

 "The Outwell just knocks the Khyam for six when it comes to quality. Better designs, better quality materials"

QUONG let me guess do you have an Outwell!

I rather strongly disagree with you I am delighted with my Khyam Ridgipod it is so versatile I can sleep 12 or 4 depending on how I set it up and we allways without fail get lots of envious comments when on site. The quality is equally as good as Outwell. (from memory khyam tents leaked 2-3 years ago due to a stitching error but lets not forget the debarcle that was Outwell last year dodgy poles dodgy zips leaky seams need I say antmore)

Copperclan everyone has their favourites but the usual advice applies 'go and see in the flesh erected all the tents you can and I guarantee you will fall for one'

 

'go and see in the flesh erected all the tents you can and I guarantee you will fall for one'

 

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i wil ldeffianetly try and get somewhere to view some

i haven't a clue where our nearest place is with them up on display - well not a variety!

Both are gret tents, would suggest you go and see both erected to ensure that they fit your own personnal requirements. But again both are great tents.

Shops tend to put there tents up around March, until then there are a few with inside displays. Camping and General on Canvey Island have a lot of tents on there indoor display but no Outwells. Have a look at Cross Camping in March, they are going to have a vast amount of Outwells on display. Another shop would be Tony Wilds at Woburn, but don't thinks any tents up just yet.

Quote: Originally posted by rickit on 26/1/2007

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 Another shop would be Tony Wilds at Woburn, but don't thinks any tents up just yet.

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Just for your info. You can pick up the Khyam Tourer 400 or XL model for £199 at     J R Leisureworld.(doesnt include ground sheet, which is £30. They are not on the net but have 5 locations around the midlands, with both on display.

I have to agree the Tourer 400 is a nice tent and was on my final 4 options with the rigidome XL and a couple of Outwell tents. Some people argue they are dark inside but they looked fine to me, but the 400 only has a 2.5M square living space, but you have the option to only use 1 bedroom 

I opted for the Sunvalley 6 (£265) in the end, after much advice from Uk Campsite members

Quote: Originally posted by Big Bunny on 26/1/2007

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You could also get the new Vango Kirkwood 400, for £200, which is equal in size to the Hartford L, but has a big advantage over the Hartford in that it pitches outer-first; which, to me, is a big bonus with this size/design of tent.

http://www.outdooraction.co.uk/acatalog/VANGO_KIRKWOOD_TENT_RANGE__2007_.html

 

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These look like real bargains at the moment, and you can save a packet on equivilent (ie same!) Killington prices.

Suspect they won't be around for long, though.