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PersonGaz0645
20/10/2019 at 8:33am
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Hi, I have a Bailey Ranger 550/6 (2004). Damp issue was quoted over £3k, going to try repair myself and reseal the caravan. The company stated that once the awning rail is removed in order to clean and reseal they just bend and twist and cannot be re-used, they said just an over seal would be the best they could do. Is the case, or is it perfectly safe to remove, clean and replace without fear of damage to the rail. Thanks in advance.


Personmarg6
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its perfectly possible to remove it but you do have to be careful and a set of spare hands comes in useful, the hardest part is to get the screws out, be prepared to end up having to drill them out. cleaning the awning rail/caravan of all old sealant and any grease is really important before replacing back on.


PersonPickled Onion
20/10/2019 at 11:40am
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Hi Gaz and welcome to the forum.
I removed the front half of awning rail and top sealing bar this summer for a small leak that was causing damage. It is time consuming (especially getting the mastic our of the rear contours of the awning rail which in my case held plastic sealing strips on the inside and outside edges), but doable.

After removing the insert and undoing the screws (place the screws in a dish of white spirit to clean them or but new ones), use sone cheese wire or very strong fishing line to cut through the mastic between without scratching the paintwork.

Use two people to support the rail on removal and refitting.
Good luck.

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PersonGaz0645
via mobile 20/10/2019 at 12:38pm
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Many thanks for the great advice, will give it a go.


PersonPickled Onion
20/10/2019 at 9:01pm
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Clean old mastic off with white spirit, then after it dries it will leave a white residue so you need to remove that with methylated spirit. If original screws aren't stainless steel, replace them all with stainless ones. Use mastic on a roll for the rail and something like soudal RV61 sealant or similar for the screw threads.

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PersonGaz0645
20/10/2019 at 9:18pm
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Dave,

Thanks for the tips and hints. Ref your leak, once you had done the roof strap and awning rail did your caravan dry out. I have to do the roof straps too after I have repaired the crack I noticed (source of the damp).

Gaz


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Oxter, literally read that half hour ago, many thanks though.


Personoxter
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Yes, good website for fixing most problems. Good luck

I’ve replaced awning and window rails on a few caravans. Time consuming and a bit messy, but worth the effort. On the curve bits, the mastic tape stretches and you may need to supplement with substance as above to fill any gaps.

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21/10/2019 at 8:14pm
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Resealed the whole of our old van, awning rail off - the lot!

Even on your own, you can remove the rail... At least I did with a lot of care...

As said before, use stainless screws to replace the old ones, but don't use the original holes.. Just drill a new one about an inch or two away from the old one. Give a squirt of sealant into the old holes in the caravan before refitting the rail too.

I used PU-18, much cheaper than Sika, along with mastic strip where needed on our van too BTW.....


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PersonPickled Onion
22/10/2019 at 11:15am
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Quote: Originally posted by Gaz0645 on 20/10/2019
Dave,

Thanks for the tips and hints. Ref your leak, once you had done the roof strap and awning rail did your caravan dry out. I have to do the roof straps too after I have repaired the crack I noticed (source of the damp).

Gaz


Yes it did. My problem was where the front, roof and side all overlapped so I gave that area special attention. I found the roof strap easier to do than the rail except for the access over the front window/roof area.

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hi guys i have a leak from the awning rail. i presume under the rail is a joint of the roof to side of the van ? just trying tofind out what i have to deal with.
oxter i cant to get to read your read this post.


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Quote: Originally posted by Sar man on 12/2/2024
hi guys i have a leak from the awning rail. i presume under the rail is a joint of the roof to side of the van ? just trying tofind out what i have to deal with.
oxter i cant to get to read your read this post.


You won't be able to read that because Oxter's post is nearly 5 years old. The link has gone.

You are right about there being a join under there and it is a very common cause of leaks. Shouldn't be too difficult to fix.


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No that's not why you can't see the post, it's actually because Wizards damp repair website no longer exists.
Which is really unfortunate.

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I have posted a couple of images under caravan renovations abbey gts 212..I removed all aluminium trim on mine..I found 4mm masonry drills removed corroded screw heads Note mine was ph2 screws..use safety glasses..as mentioned turps to remove mastic sealer and I used denim rags..if the screw holes in rail become oversize drill at the side of it good luck


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