Home

   Log in or Register



Insurance Quotes
forums Campsite Search Comp Directory tips virtual brochure Profile
Tent and Awning Reviews Competitions Caravans and Motorhomes For Sale Shopping Diary Advent Calendar

Advertisement

Message Forums

Welcome Guest Register Login Search The Forum Posts Since Last Visit
 Reception - All Forums
   Caravans and Caravanning -  Caravan Repairs, Servicing and Maintenance
Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email  Printer Friendly Version Print
Subject Topic: Elddis Wisp 400/4 Front End Rebuild
Page:  1  2 Post Reply Post New Topic
23/12/2013 at 2:13pm
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: Elddis Wisp 400 4
View Marcrod's Profile View Profile   Reply to Marcrod Reply   Quote Marcrod Quote  
Joined: 10/6/2013

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   19

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

You may want to have a look at how they fit windows to van sides, as this seems the easiest way to fix the window and keep the stability. A single sheet of plastic may flex a bit much for the van and may be liable to crack in differing weathers unless you have a flexible sealant. Personally I would find 3/2 windows from a breakers and then rebuild the frame to fit those windows. You then have the stability and the ability to put rubber seals around. To get the water out of the windows, take out the rubber dots and use a vacuum cleaner to suck it out. Then just use a piece of clear tape to seal (don't know if you can get replacements) or PVC glue the crack. Good luck


10/3/2016 at 6:43pm
 Location: leeds
 Outfit: elddis elusion 510 6
View richard prince's Profile View Profile   Reply to richard prince Reply   Quote richard prince Quote  
Joined: 04/5/2012

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   24

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Quote: Originally posted by Marcrod on 25/6/2013
No, I salvaged the bottom shelf, but had to make the top shelf with a 30deg cut. I used a cheap Rhobi jig saw, that has the ability to tilt the blade and then just stuck to the line really well. If you still have the old shelf, I would sand it down until you reach good wood as then add a layer of chip board or 3mm ply to reinforce. I used a piece of hardwood for the shelf (to stop it warping when it dries properly) and this cost me more than the frame (£18.50 for a 2m x 150mm) piece.

I have finished now and it actually looks ok. I will have to make some tape from the left over wallboard to cover a couple of cutting mistakes, but overall I'm impressed at how easy (technically) the job is. It's just time consuming and requires patience.

For the weatherproofing of the main spars I used some aluminum tape on the outside, stuck about 1inch onto the ABS and enough so I could wrap a flap around the wood. I then used some liquid rubber (£10 ish off eBay) to give my old seals the bet chance of being water tight and painted it onto the main spars (that are covered in ally tape) and carefully over the edge of the seals that touch the ABS.

Take care when it comes to re-fitting curtains, as I guessed and now have one curtain that needs to be slightly adjusted.

If you do need to take the front overhead lockers out, then I found there were screws coming down from the underneath the roof. I took the drastic option of basically, whilst removing all the ones I could, ripping the wood from the ceiling. I destroyed the holding wood (try not to damage the furniture it's self, but then added a couple of screws where the down ones were to screw it back up. To get rid of the hanging screws I used a pare of tin snips to snap te screws flush to the wood above.

I hear the weather is good this week. Good luck



Hi could you tell me where the abs panel lays on the top of the window frame mine was stapled and this is where the cracks started from.did you fasten yours to the frame if so how.this is the only thing stopping me carrying on.
Thanks

-------------
landrover discovery td5 followed by elddis elusion 510/6


11/3/2016 at 10:44pm
 Location: south yorkshire
 Outfit: 1992 Elldis Whisp Conway Countryman.
View zac45's Profile View Profile   Reply to zac45 Reply   Quote zac45 Quote  
Joined: 14/7/2005

Gold Member
Gold Member

Forum Posts:   257

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Hi marcrod
Glad your rebuilds gone well,I rebuilt the front end of our whisp 350/2 new window frame etc cracks was reinforced with 3mm abs on the inside and abs paste on outside.After a couple of outings very small crack's appeared again on the outside due to movement I suppose. I decided to get some 0.5mm aluminium sheet & cut about a 3" strip just a bit wider than the front window.
This was moulded to shape & stuck on with sikafex 512.
It as covered all area's that was prone to cracking & left a nice looking finish that looks like it should be there. We have now been leak free for a good 12 months with lots of outings.
All the best
Kev




11/3/2016 at 11:13pm
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: Elddis Wisp 400 4
View Marcrod's Profile View Profile   Reply to Marcrod Reply   Quote Marcrod Quote  
Joined: 10/6/2013

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   19

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

The ABS on mine wasn't stapled and really shouldn't be. That's just asking for weak points. If you have to secure it, then I would suggest drilling small holes and using small all weather screws. I'd also reinforce the outside of the holes with some ally tape, to stop any movement cracks growing.

The only securing holes on the ABS should be under the rail above the window, so staples are useless, as they are only there to hold in place temporarily.

I now have another van, but we had 6 months of water tite camping in the forests with the van after the repair and as far as I know, it's still going strong 😊



In order to post a reply you will need to register, or if already registered please log in here

  Prev       Next

Jump To Page:  1  2

Quick Links - All Forums - Caravan Repairs, Servicing and Maintenance - Top of Page

Printer Friendly Version Printable version      Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email


Latest News, Discounts and Competitions  see all...














9323 Visitors online !

Free UKCampsite.co.uk Window Sticker  -  Recommend to Friend  -  Add a Missing Campsite

[Message Forums]  [Caravan Sites & Camping]  [Company Listings]  [Features / Advice]  [Virtual Brochure]  [Shop!]
[Reception]  [Competitions]  [Caravans & Motorhomes For Sale]  [Event Diary]  [Contact Us]  [Tent Reviews



Please note we are not responsible for the content of external sites & any reviews represent the author's personal view only. Please report any error here. You may view our privacy and cookie policy and terms and conditions here. All copyrights & other intellectual property rights in the design and content of this web site are reserved to the UKCampsite.co.uk © 1999 - 2024


Advertisement


Advertisement


UKCampsite.co.uk
2024 Advent Calendar


Advent Calendar

24 Daily Prizes PLUS a Christmas Day Star Prize worth £999

Request a Reminder