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Subject Topic: Alde heating problem
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Personchrisn7
08/1/2018 at 11:49pm
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Firstly the original control panel for the 3010 is not the easiest to understand. There is however a version of the later colour panel that is compatible with the 3010, which is far easier to understand, and a worthwhile upgrade.
Next, unless the 12v battery back up has been added, you will have to reset the clock whenever the van has been powered down. If the time is out, the system may be trying to maintain a night time temp, which tends to be around 15 or 16 C.
The 3010 has 1 kw and 2 kw settings on electricity and 2 kw does take quite a time to heat the van through. Again, there is an upgrade pcb that will give a 3kw setting.
Check the pump is running by listening or putting a hand on the reservoir tank. Then check the panel settings thoroughly


PersonAdam + Vee
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Thanks for the input.

I don't have any issues with the electrical side of it, just the gas not igniting in the unit when trying to initiate heat into the caravan.

The system is a 2kw unit and it does heat it up to around 22° so no complaints.

It's just on the occasions where we don't have an electric hook up available on site.

Regards

Adam


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Hiya Zippy.
Good mornin Sir! 🌈

Are you still on here??

Just wondered how your heating going now!!??
I’ve got a 2012 fixed bed Bailey with Alde heating!
Works fine at mo and am using in garden all the time.
Decided to swap gas pigtails on van for longer 5metre tail attached to 47kg bottle outside!
Got a smell of gas now (woke me up today) so will have to do some checks on that!
Are pressures with 6-13 and 47kg bottles the same?
Not doing any damage am I??

Anybody— come back please!!

Regards

Gary


Personbilly
15/2/2021 at 12:02pm
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Issue with a 47kg bottle could be that the gas outlet on top of the bottle is higher than the bulkhead regulator on the caravan. I think there was an issue with oil residue in the bottle getting into regulator. Instructions with my caravan state specifically that bottle outlet should not be higher than the bulkhead regulator.

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15/2/2021 at 2:39pm
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I wasn't even aware that it is possible to get a 5m pigtail for a unregulated secion of pipe between the bottle at full pressure and the bulkhead regulator. You havn't got a regulator on the bottle as well as the bulkhead one have you?

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Hi Billy!
Cheers ol chap!!
Never thought of that!
Ironically im using 13kg in the van too & got a feeling - OUTLET on 13kg COULD be higher than the regular too!!
The original 6 kg wasn’t lasting so used the 13kg but then I thought — I’ll fill and use - buy a 5metre hose and use a 47kg that I had kicking about!!
Anything is feasible and although mechanically landed, there is more to this gas stuff than meets the eye eh!!
I WELCOME yours and ANYBODY'S advice Sir!

I’ve taken the 47kg off now, put the shorter pigtail back on and will check height of 13kg in the van!

I’m only using the regulator on the van- there is non on the bottle, as it would be as per normal.

What YOU say tho Billy makes sense!!
Smell of gas in van this morning was awful!!
Hope ive not hurt the system!!

Cheers Billy.

Kind regards!!

(Everybody in the know can BERATE me if they wish!!)
It’s justified I’m sure.

Gary


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Birder!!
Can you see my msg to Billy above??

I’m only using the one regulator- and that’s the van one!!

But reckon Billy got the answer!!!!

Tell me off if you will:-
It’s justified I’m sure!!

Never gave bottle outlet height a thought!!

Gas smell this morning was overpowering!!!

Hope I’ve not damaged anything!!! 😷😷😢😢

Gary


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If you could somehow get the 47kg bottle outlet lower than the regulator you should be ok. Bottle must be upright though.

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My Dear Billy.
I made a big reply then lost it adding photo!

It said:-

I’m SO SO grateful for your input info!!

THAT coulda been DISASTER!!!!

I thank you that you took the time Bill — REALLY!!

You saved me AND the new van I’m sure!!

I NEVER gave it a thought!!

The 13kg at the mo is level with the regulator!
What does the info you found say!
Does outlet of bottle have to be a lot lower than regulator?

I think what I’ll do is put 5metre tail back on and put 13kg outside on a slab whilst I’m using van at home!!

BILLY!
I’m so so so grateful for your input on this!!
REALLY!!
I’m actually in tears wring this cos it coulda been disaster!!

The smell has started to subside now!!
(Hope I’ve not done damage to van or me!!)

Where are you in the country?
I’m Andover — the South.

If you passing my way with your van or m- home - I owe you a meal and a pint now!
SERIOUS!!

I owe you Sir.

Gary


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Personbilly
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I’m in Essex Gary. We usually go down the 303 to Cornwall which we will be doing later this yr. There was a fair bit about this on this forum some years ago. Bulkhead regulators on some quite new caravans were failing & it was concluded that it was oil residue in the gas bottle getting into the regulator & ruining it.

It was concluded that the solution was always to ensure bottle outlet was below regulator level to prevent the oil residue entering the regulator. Caravan manufactures have obviously taken this onboard it mentions this in the instruction manual on mine.

The worst you might have done is damage the regulator but replacement is not difficult or expensive if you can use hand tools. If everything is now working as normal though you should be ok.



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Up sharp this morning Billy.

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Billy!
I STILL owe you my man!!

I NEVER gave it a thought!!

Like said — it coulda been MORE than a disaster!

Being a new van the regulator seems to have held up and all seems to be running ok now but I will put these 13kg bottles outside now and use that long tail I had on that 47!

Yes!!
Essex!
Retired Continental truck driver so been your way lots!!

Cornwall!
Yes!
I’m 5 minutes off the A303 (Ragged Appleshaw)
If and when you passing, give me a call       07751 853 682. I’ll take you and good lady (if got one) for a meal etc!
I owe you my man!
I’m very very grateful.
Plenty of room for an overnight with your van too, if need be.
Ok!

You take care!

And!
If I’m ever gonna try and blow myself up again, I’ll get in touch with you first - ok.

Regards

Gary

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Kind regards

Gary


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Cheers Gary. Yes retired continental truck driver I am as well. I have made a note of your number. I will give you a bell if we are passing !

You are right Blue. I do tend to be a morning person. Early to rise etc.

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