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09/4/2007 at 8:31pm
 Location: Warrington Cheshire
 Outfit: Elddis Vogue 616
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Well after a few years away from caravaning I have bought another one, well it will be when the damp damage is sorted and I have a fix it club badge!! What do I have to repair? well it is in a bad way I new about the damp before I bought it but its funny that it gets worse and worse as you strip it down. Both rear corners and front corners are rotten and the whole of the nearside of the van. I will post pictures but at the moment the offside is basically a floppy strip of aluminium which was and is still bowed outwards. This is a 1995 van and the damp is worse than vans twice its age!, I am a joiner by trade and I am hoping I will be able to keep faith and repair it. It looks like I have got to replace the top timber rail and that will involve taking the roof off, all the timber in the offside will need to be replaced and the polystyrene also which leads me to my dilema where can I get 20mm insulating polystyrene from at a reasonable cost and preferably in the north west of England? B&Q polystyrene is 25mm but only £3.79 for a large sheet, that 5mm is too much difference and would alter the timbers and seals etc. Does anyone have any ideas? Regards Paul.


09/4/2007 at 8:38pm
 Location: south yorkshire
 Outfit: coachman Amara 450
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do you have to remove the polystyrene,?

it wont be easy as its bonded to the outer aluminium sheet , ca'nt you replace the wood ,and leave the polly, in place , as the polly wont be affected by the damp.

stu.



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09/4/2007 at 8:42pm
 Location: Warrington Cheshire
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The polystyrene had already delaminated from the side of the van and somebody had already tried to carry out a repair basically wrecking the polystyrene that was any good! Unfortunately I have to start with the aluminium Cheers Ogg



09/4/2007 at 9:59pm
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Look here

http://uk.shopping.com/xDN-tools_and_hardware_2-polystyrene_insulation

 

worth a phone call

 

http://www.styrotech.uk.com/cons_home.php

 



10/4/2007 at 1:17pm
 Location: Warrington Cheshire
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Thanks for the links katharita, I had noticed that the underfloor heating polystyrene was available in 20mm depth form but its just so expensive. I cant understand why 20mm is more expensive than 25mm depth material.


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15/4/2007 at 1:32pm
 Location: Warrington Cheshire
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I managed to get the 20mm polystyrene for 75p per 1200 x 600 sheet. After looking at paying in the region of £13.00 a sheet I feel thats quite a result. Caravan work on going daily gets worse as you go ive now had to replace the bottom floor rails which attach the side of the caravan to the floor. Seeing the side of your caravan wafting around in the wind is quite worrying if I had been working indoors I would have taken the whole side of the van off. Cheers Ogg.


15/4/2007 at 2:53pm
 Location: South Gloucestershire
 Outfit: Sterling Excel 550 - Honda CR-V Mk4
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Hi,

Being the practical type, would it not possibly be better for you to do a few "private jobs" to fund a replacement caravan that didn't require so much work?

It does seem a bit of a challenge that you have taken on. Or is that part of the fun?

Mr Ulti-Mate



15/4/2007 at 5:20pm
 Location: Devon
 Outfit: Bailey Maru
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I honestly think it's part of the fun, that and knowing that at the end of the day you have a decent caravan that is not going to leak on you.

When I upgrade mine I think I shall be looking for a leaky one

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15/4/2007 at 8:40pm
 Location: Warrington Cheshire
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Hi Ulti-mates I cant do any private jobs as I work for myself As Mudlark says its all part of the fun it might be a bit stressfull at times but once you overcome the problems one by one you begin to feel better, I honestly think that most caravans from the 90's have some form of damp some will be well hidden and may not show for many years but at thew end of the day you will be sleeping in a damp environment. One of my boys has asthma and I am not prepared to put him in a damp environment. So the choice is buy a caravan which is really nice and seems good but you never really know whats underneath many people reading this now will have done this and had it cost them thousands of pounds, scrapped it, or sold it on at a loss through no fault of their own due to the damp being hidden within the structure. I cant afford to buy a new one Im sure many people cant thats the only way to guarantee no damp. Which leaves me with buy one that you know is damp cheaper the trade retail price of my van is £5,000 it cost me less than £1000 and will cost me around £400 to do the repair work and end up with a van that you know is right and better than it was when it left the factory. There is a very lucky gentleman on this website Dpr206 I think who got a swift for free and most probably ended up with a dry swift for around £600 you cant buy one for anywhere near that. I have seen many repairs on this website carried out to a better standard than the factory produced, thats because they never used wood preservative or treated timber or made sure that the awning rail was well sealed and the screws were well sealed to stop the water getting in, they only needed it to last past the warranty period we need to make it dry for ourselves not to make money. The cost of having damp repaired is I think well over the top and the people doing it are making a lot of money so much so as I work for myself as a joiner I am contemplating starting a repair section to the business for people who really cant repair their own van and provide a more cost effective service than I know some people do. If I was to have had my van repaired it would have cost £5000+ who can afford that? To all the people who do have a go at the repairs I say well done and good luck and keep up all the good work. But remember while you have it all stripped and in pieces get all the damp rotten wood out, if you have a thought that says it will be alright to just do this bit and not that bit remember it wont be alright and above all make sure that before you put everything back together that everything is dry. Once covered it wont dry out and all your hard work will be for nothing. By the way great website very interesting and genuine nice people from what I have read. Regards Ogg.


16/4/2007 at 6:36am
 Location: South Gloucestershire
 Outfit: Sterling Excel 550 - Honda CR-V Mk4
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Hi Ogg,

If you have the space, and the time (clearly you have the skill) then go for it and enjoy the challenge.

I hope it all works out and keep us posted.

Mr Ulti-Mate




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