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Personmr.g
23/6/2007 at 8:42pm
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I have just found a very severe wet patch underneath the kitchen unit on my Abbey Stafford 1990. The wallboard is practically falling apart[ about a 1ft square section ] and about a 1ft square section of the floor[ that i can see ] is fairly rotten to. Apart from, "how do i get the kitchen unit out"?, how easy is it to remove a section of the floor and what do you replace it with[ is it normal plywood or is it a special board. I also need to find and repair the leak, i think the main culprit is either the sealant around the door or a caravan dealers plate that as been riveted on the outside[ the damp wallboard is opposite this plate. How easy or not is it to remove the door frame and check the wood underneath and then reseal it. Hope someone can help. Allan.    


Personmichael
23/6/2007 at 9:01pm
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hi you need the fixit gang for this one

http://hp-h.com/p/wizard41/



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Personwizard9956
24/6/2007 at 1:15am
 Location: Bristol
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Hi Allan , could you post some pictures on here , or email them to me .

atb

Wizard


PersonMozann
24/6/2007 at 8:17am
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Hi Allan,

Pleased to see Wizard's on board - he's my hero! Between him and Caradad I've nearly finished sorting my rotten floor.

I've used a straight edge and stanley knife to cut back to the 'good' wood and removed the rotten stuff. Where the timber was fairly solid I used a wood chisel under it and prised it off taking care not to damage the insulation underneath. Then did the same on the side panel where that had rotten too.

I've cut out all the rotten supporting timbers and patched new pieces in. All the new timbers have been painted with a waterproof membrane paint, hopefully if there's any future water ingress the structural timbers won't rot! So as far as the internal work goes I've only go to replace the wall board and flooring. The walls are 3mm ply which I'll panel pin and glue into place (probably going to use 'Sticks likes Sh**t'). Then screw (into the new floor 'joists') and glue (use a non solvent based adhesive so it won't attack the insulation) the new floor (6mm ply) boards down

The difficult bit was finding where the water has been getting in. In my case it was along the bottom seam (where the wall meets the floor) and the bottom corner of the awning rail. I've removed the skirt rail and rubber seal - this is the one thats split and cleaned all the old mastic off. Of all the jobs I've done this is the worst!! The white spirit disolves it to a thick glue which eventually rubs off. So I'm now ready to reseal the awning rail.

My next task is the door frame, I've a small wet mark on the new floor I put down so there's obviously still a problem here. I haven't started the door area yet so can't be help much here.

I really hope it goes well for you (and stays dry! working outside with the skin and seals off your van when it starts to rain is ..... )


Personcaradad
24/6/2007 at 11:41am
 Location: Scotland
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Mr G,

When you go for this repair......make sure that you remove all the rot.  It is sometimes tempting the take out the worst, and that will do.  That is false economy.  If there are spores in there they will spread to the repair!

Good luck!


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Personstujem
28/6/2007 at 12:45pm
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Hello I have an 1989 Abbey Stafford which is rotton around one side of the door and I think the roof rail is letting in water, I dont want to sell my caravan as it is lovly to tow and look's bril inside, as I have two very young children it is perfact. could you help with sorting these problams out by offering any tips you may have. kind reagrds, Stuart


Personmr.g
28/6/2007 at 8:35pm
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Hi Stu, mine is a 1990 Stafford and like yours, [for the age of the van] its really nice inside.Is the damp actually in the door or is it on the wall board, if the wallboard is damp then you will probably have to reseal the awning rail. It's not something i have got round to doing myself yet but you can click on to wizards website and he shows you how to do it step by step. I,m hoping to start on resealing my door frame tomorrow, if it stops raining long enough. Let you know how i get on.

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Personmichael
28/6/2007 at 8:56pm
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stugem see http://hp-h.com/p/wizard41/ and for more help just ask

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Personstujem
28/6/2007 at 9:33pm
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Thank you all, My brother and I will tackle the awning rail on Saturday, I will have to get a water proof cover (JUST IN CASE OF RAIN) as I think it's going to take days or even weeks!!!!!!!!!

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StuJem


Personstujem
28/6/2007 at 9:52pm
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hello, where do you get maskic on a roll?



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StuJem


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Personwizard9956
28/6/2007 at 10:53pm
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Hi StuJem , Welcome to UKCS , you can get mastic on a roll from most good caravan shops , the one i used is called W4 Roll Mastic http://www.w4limited.com/
Do have a look at my website and the links to other Fixed it Club members websites so you can see just what can be achieved . There's always Fixed it Club members about on here so if you have more questions just ask , i'm sure they'd be glad to advise you .

atb

Wizard


Persontakisawa
02/7/2007 at 1:08pm
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Cant help you with the repairs I'm afraid guys, but I do have all of the manuals for my 1991 Abbey Somerset in email'able PDF format. If there any use to you just email me...
pten2106 at yahoo.co.uk


Personstujem
11/7/2007 at 9:49pm
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thank you all

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StuJem



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