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Subject Topic: No 12v power Post Reply Post New Topic
24/6/2007 at 9:51pm
 Location: Leicestershire
 Outfit: Swift Charisma 560 & Vauxhall Omega
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Sorry if this is going to be long winded, but we're at a loss as to what to try next and your help might just solve our problem!

We bought our 2 year old Burstner caravan last weekend. It took us 2 hours to get home. The seller told us the battery was most likely to be flat as the van hadn't been used for about a year, so we thought the drive home would charge the battery up. It didn't because we found out the battery connectors were loose. I've since read on this forum that flat batteries are usually no good, but even so we bought the battery home and put it on charge overnight. The next day I took it to a caravan service centre who tested the battery using a drop charger. He said the battery was okay, but was weak and needed further charging. He said to put our tester on it and when it was registering 13v it was fully charged. This we did. However, having put the battery back in the caravan nothing works still. We've checked and none of the switches have tripped and all the fuses are okay. We've connected the caravan back to the car electrics with the car engine running and still nothing. On 240v hook up the electrics work fine. We're at a loss as to what the problem could be. So before we end up taking the caravan somewhere for checking, is there anything else we could look at that might be causing the problem. (It has OH completely stumpted and he's normally very good with things like this! It is our first caravan though).

Any ideas?

Jane


24/6/2007 at 10:03pm
 Location: Lancashire
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sounds like a fuse or fuses have gone on the 12v system,may be due to loose connectors on the battery.look for a 10 amp fuse near the charger first. check also for a main 12v switch on the controls.

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24/6/2007 at 11:42pm
 Location: wembley.
 Outfit: ford transit mk2 coach build 4 berth.
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Quote: Originally posted by michael on 24/6/2007
sounds like a fuse or fuses have gone on the 12v system,may be due to loose connectors on the battery.look for a 10 amp fuse near the charger first. check also for a main 12v switch on the controls.
        I would agree with you here as i had same problem....found a switch that disconnected the batt when on mains...good luck


25/6/2007 at 12:54am
 Location: NW of Glasgow
 Outfit: Sterling Searcher 2008 Volvo XC90
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Not a solution, just an observation............If you want to power the 12v electrics from the car it should only do it if you connect to car, WITHOUT engine running and select "car" position on your 3 way switch (if you have one).  This is for emergency purposes only, say if your van battery is flat.   When you start the engine there is a habitation relay that cuts the 12v power to the van and then only your battery charging and fridge should be powered by the car.

To use the van battery you need to select "van" position.  And if you are on 240v and turn on the charger it will charge the battery.

Once you put the battery back in and connected it up did you still get 13v?  If so then there must be an in-line fuse somewhere that is blown, or a switch that is not in the correct position.



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25/6/2007 at 1:03am
 Location: Argyll Scotland
 Outfit: 1997 Bailey Ranger 470 4
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If the 12v system is working when you are on Mains Hook Up then the fault must lie between the battery and where the charger wiring feeds into the main loom. IE possibly an inline fuse between the battery and the loom.

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25/6/2007 at 2:42pm
 Location: Lancashire
 Outfit: Caravan now Sold
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If the 12v system is working when you are on Mains Hook Up then the fault must lie between the battery and where the charger wiring feeds into the main loom. IE possibly an inline fuse between the battery and the loom.

agree there,most modern caravans do not need a battery if using mains only as 12v is also there.so the fuse must be from the battery side.



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25/6/2007 at 4:49pm
 Location: Worcestershire
 Outfit: Ranger 620 6 Isuzu Trooper 3.1TD
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Our van had exactly the same problem, and it turned out to be a fuse

We have 2 boxes, one in the wardrobe & one under the bed which has the majority of the fuses fitted.

There was a spur out of the main fusebox, not part of the bank of fuses,and that had blown

Both being German, you may have a similar setup.

Almost certainly a fuse-good luck in finding it

 



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25/6/2007 at 9:39pm
 Location: Leicestershire
 Outfit: Swift Charisma 560 & Vauxhall Omega
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Well if it is a blown fuse somewhere it's proving very elusive! We've been unable to locate any, apart from the ones in the main control panel and they're fine. Our local caravan service centre had the van in last Monday and said the charger was working, but they only tested all the appliances whilst on hook up. They've lent us a battery to try to see if that works - if it does we'll know it's our battery at fault. We'll have another good hunt round tomorrow following all your suggestions, but if their battery doesn't work, then I think the van will be going back in to the service centre to resolve the problem. We'll let you know the outcome.

Jane


25/6/2007 at 9:58pm
 Location: Lancashire
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if the battery has a dead cell on it then nothing will work,if the battery terminals were loose the it would fail to charge correctly and could be flat.once the battery has reached a low level over a long time it will not recover.

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27/6/2007 at 10:11pm
 Location: Leicestershire
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Well the mystery continues. Having borrowed a battery from the caravan servicing company, we took it up to the van, but still nothing works. That means our battery is unlikely to be the cause. OH did manage to find another fuse near the charger unit, but that was okay too. We've finally given up trying to resolve it, so as the van is going to the service people to have a socket fitted for an alarm, we've asked them to diagnose and hopefully resolve the problem.

At least we don't need to use 12v this weekend as the site has EHU. Our first trip out in it, so very excited!

Anyway, hopefully after Wednesday next week all will be resolved and I will report back what the problem is. Hopefully it's not due to a mouse having a taste for wiring!

Jane


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05/7/2007 at 11:07pm
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An update to the problem......the caravan went into the caravan service company and he found a connection that seemed a bit iffy, so he repaired it and the 12v now works - thank goodness.

I can now feel comfortable about booking a weekend away now at an unserviced site.

Thanks again for all your suggestions.

Jane


06/7/2007 at 10:33am
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well done all the best on your weekend.[:o)]

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06/7/2007 at 11:00pm
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Bah, I wanted to solve this one, looks like Ive been beat....a few times.

Enjoy your holiday in the new 'van


07/7/2007 at 9:18am
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Arriving back home with our one year old van, the fridge would not work on 240 volts, so we had to empty it quickly.  The next day, I decided to trace  the fault.  The fridge has a switched spur fuse, which is located in the recess behind the convector heater.  The blown air pipe was resting against this spur and, during travelling, it had vibrated and knocked the switch to the OFF position.

The point I am making is that, when there is an electrical failure, you have to patiently trace through the whole circuit. The cause of a problem can be so unexpected and bizarre.

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