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06/12/2007 at 4:00pm
 Location: Chippenham
 Outfit: Elddis Avante 630
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I clipped the back end of my Elddis Evante pulling out of a petrol garage, when forced to turn immediate. Very annoyed as I am usually very careful. The damage was to dent about 4 feet of my bottom awning rail, clipped off my rear nearside light, and damaged the bodywork around the light fitting about an area the size of my fist.

The light cover requires replacement, but the lights all work fine. The awning rail can be corrected with a bit of patience and a screwdriver, but the bodywork requires some effort. I am reluctant to pay to have it done as I can turn my hand to most repairs. The rear panel that houses the light fitting is formed to take the light and, as such is not flat but moulded. It looks like fibre glass and I am thinking of a GRP repair.

Can anybody give me any advice/tips before I start. This site is excellent for advice and you are all so helpful.

Regards and thanks in anticipation  

Geoff



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06/12/2007 at 4:24pm
 Location: Bristol
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Hi Geoff , could you post a picture of the damage on here or email it to me at
bobanoba86 at hotmail.com  note change the     at     for the correct symbol and no spaces .

atb

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06/12/2007 at 8:23pm
 Location: skegness
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Hi Geoff, Depending on the severity of the damage you can either remove the panel and rebuild the panel by applying new glass matting to the rear,then facing the front of the panel with body filler preping and repainting, if the damage is not to severe you can use chopped glass fibre which comes ready made in a can, mis as per instructions and apply to the damaged area, when set sand down, apply body-filler prep and repaint.

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07/12/2007 at 2:32pm
 Location: Chippenham
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Thank you both. I have to get to my storage to take photos, but am hoping to do that next week. The damage does not (I think) warrant removing the panel so it looks like the chopped glass in a tin option may be the best. I will post a couple of pics next week. Metz, where is the best place to get the chopped glass fibre in a can?

Thank again for the advice. I may need some more before finishing this one.

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08/12/2007 at 2:38pm
 Location: Lancashire
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this may help on repairs,found on the net.

http://www.rochdale-owners-club.co.uk/technical.htm



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08/12/2007 at 4:32pm
 Location: Newcastle u Lyme
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The easy way is to stick a vent/etc over it if its in a suitable place

I had 2 sets of triangles on the back of one caravan after the step ladders fell against it

My friend dented one caravan on the dealers forecourt before he had paid for it and the dealer fitted an external shower over the hole(never ever used!)

GB /makers stickers etc can be used

 



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09/12/2007 at 5:42pm
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Hi Geoff, The Glass fibre kits are available at any good car care centre.

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10/12/2007 at 10:21pm
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I have just sent a couple of pictures to your email address Wizard with a bit of text description. I would have posted them on here but do not know how to add pictures to messages.
Hope you can take a moment to have a look for me.
regards

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10/12/2007 at 10:33pm
 Location: Bristol
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Hi Geoff no pictures have come thro with your email .

atb

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10/12/2007 at 10:35pm
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I think they must be too large. The email was 1mb. I have just been reading a thread on how to photobucket them and send a link, also resizing them. I will try again in a few minutes. Sorry.


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10/12/2007 at 11:02pm
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First try at picture of my damage - fingers crossed




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10/12/2007 at 11:09pm
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Hi Geoff i've just loaded your pics to my site , see members temp pics . You can click on them and click copy , then paste them on here .

atb

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10/12/2007 at 11:15pm
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Hi Wiz,

Just copied the link from your members temp pics site. Hope this gets the other picture. Added the text for others after the picture.


http://www.wizard41.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/user/cimage/100-25295b15d.jpg

You will see from the first picture the general problem, including some damage to the side and vertical awning rails. Luckily no body damage on the side. The second picture shows a bit better the damage to the light housing panel and the light cover. After having the bang, the light was hanging by it's connections, but all bulbs are still working. The light fitting including cover had been clipped off the body panel and was left hanging. The screws that hold the light cover on, screw right through the light housing into the body panel before the impact. The altercation with a petrol pump caused the whole light fitting including the light housing to be pulled away from the bodywork. The screws pulled a sleeve of panel out with them (a bit like pulling out a screw from a wall taking the rawplug out with it) , leaving holes where the screws were. Not sure if I have explained this well. I then aligned the light fitting/cover and screws (with their fibre glass rawplugs) and pushed the whole thing back in place, and secured it with heaps of masking tape for extra security. This got me home.

If I try and remove thelight cover, the screws will turn (with their rawplugs) in the bodywork but will not unscrew. I will have to just pull them out, thus weakening them. I can then take off the 'rawplugs' from the screws and remove the cover from the light.

I am happy with replacing the cover but need advice on how best to attack the bodywork repair after the light has been removed. If I can make good the repair with fibre glass, I can then re-drill holes for the light fitting, before re-fitting the light and new cover.

Phew! Any advice or guidance on the body repair would be very welcome and very much appreciated.
Regards

Geoff


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10/12/2007 at 11:29pm
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Hi Geoff , the rawplug things that hold the light fitting are normally a rubber tube with a nut molded in the end , as you do the screw up the rubber expands and grips in the hole .
If the fitting has been ripped out you could try glueing the rubbers in place on the body with araldite or try increasing the diameter of the rubber tube by sticking some thin strips of rubber to the tube .

Looking at your pics , unless your pretty handy with fibre glass i would use car body filler , you could then fill , smooth and spray .
If the filler was to fall out , you could then do a fibre glass repair , but if you do a fibre glass repair first and don't get it spot on it could look a bit of a mess and would be difficult to put right .

Hope this helps . Do ask as many questions as you like .

atb

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10/12/2007 at 11:33pm
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Just copied the link from your members temp pics site. Hope this gets the other picture. Added the text for others after the picture.

You need to copy the picture on my site , not the link .
Try this .
353

atb

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10/12/2007 at 11:42pm
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Wiz,

Thanks for the tips and the help with the pictures. I will remove the light fitting first, and then attack the damage with car filler as you suggest. Just need a bit of kind weather.

Once again thanks for your help. I will post a picture of the finished job, if I get it right!

Regards


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