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Subject Topic: Tyre question - 1988 Abbey Post Reply Post New Topic
25/3/2009 at 4:49pm
 Location: Worcestershire
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Hi, I have been restoring a 1988 Abbey Stafford. It is now near completion, however I am not sure which tyres will be required. Currently there are two 175 R13 'Grand Prix S' tyres fitted, which are obviously car tyres. Does anybody know what load index tyre I would need? I do not have a handbook but believe the MTPLM weight to be 1150Kg

As always, any help will be appreciated.



25/3/2009 at 5:03pm
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Given a max weight of 1150KG and there are 2 tyres you need a tyre with a load index that exceeds 600KG. Within reason, the greater the margin, the better.

Hope this helps.


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26/3/2009 at 11:53pm
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Thanks for replies, so a load index of 90+ would suffice. Do the tyres also need to be 4 ply? I have read many posts saying that 2 ply are not sufficient.

 

Thanks again,



27/3/2009 at 12:42am
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In truth ply rating is out dated, ie, a tyre rated as 8ply no longer actually has 8plys?!, however, standard or car tyres are/were rated as 4ply, I've no idea what a 2ply might be? jockey wheel perhaps!!

So as said, what you need is a pair of tyres that can carry the weight of the van with an extra margin of 10% or a little more, whatever that tyre happens to be.



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27/3/2009 at 9:26am
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hello bit of advice if you like i would change the size for the slightly smaller size of 165-13 then you can readily change them for 165-13 commercial tyres which are widely available and cheaper than the 175-13 and teh new ones will be more than surfice for your van hope this helps


27/3/2009 at 6:02pm
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According to My Abbey Manuel A 1993 Abbey Stafford Tyres are quoted as 175 R 13 6 ply R  Tyre Pressure 54

 



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27/3/2009 at 10:37pm
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Once again, thanks for all your help.

 

 



28/3/2009 at 9:19am
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Duff info removed , sorry .

atb

Wizard



Post last edited on 28/03/2009 18:26:54


28/3/2009 at 3:10pm
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Point of order Wiz! you got this info off Tyreline? 

'your tyres' are 6ply so 1340kg at 54psi, 8ply should be 1460kg but at 65psi. At 1160kg on 6ply correct pressure would be 51psi and the tyres a bit under spec!, 8ply and correct pressure is 49psi

So this van if changed to 165x13 would need the 94 load index (8ply) and as it happens needing 54psi for 1150kg

If you stick with 175x13 then still 94 load index but a 6ply and needing 45psi



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28/3/2009 at 6:27pm
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Hi Gary , thanks for spotting my duff info , i got the info off the tyre but it should be 670kg ( 1375lbs ) at 54psi.

And this My caravan weighs approx 1160kg when fully loaded and i inflate the tyres to 42psi . should read inflate to 47psi .

Worked out this way
Calalated using the tyre Load index 92/94N which says 54psi at 1340kg for a 175 R 13 6ply . So i did 54 divided by 1340 = 0.040298507 approx
Then times 0.040298507 by 1160 mtplm of my caravan = 47psi

I'll have to check my info better next time

atb

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28/3/2009 at 7:48pm
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I also made an error, (got 165 mixed up with 175!!), your actual correct pressure is 45psi, the caculation is not accurate but always gives a higher pressure making it safe, hence your 47psi

Where the calculation really does fall down is the further from the tyres maximum weight the actual weight is, so if the van only weighs half what the tyres can carry, it becomes far to high, perhaps 7psi or even more!!

In the absence of a pressure chart it's still probably going to be better than guessing and because it's always high the tyres certainly won't overheat, but, will give the van a far harsher and bouncer ride that need be.




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