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Subject Topic: Brake lights have gone off Post Reply Post New Topic
27/6/2009 at 5:24pm
 Location: Teesside
 Outfit: Swift Freestyle
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I've noticed my brake lights on the caravan don't work. I've checked the car socket, the van plug, fuses & bulbs. Anything else I've missed?
Van is a 2003 Swift Charisma.


27/6/2009 at 5:44pm
 Location: Lancashire
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Trailer Wiring I
Socket and plug wiring instruction 167
12N Normal Socket 12S Supplementary Socket
1) Left indicator 1) Reverse
2) Fog 2) Battery Charge **
3) Earth 3) Earth
4) Right indicator 4) Power feed
5) Right side light 5) Spare
6) Brake 6) Fridge **
7) Left side light 7) Earth for pin 6 (1998 on)
**NB It is essential that pin 6 is wired through a split relay from 1998 on!!

check also the negitive or earth wires to the inside of the lights after removing the lens.spray plug with WD40 and clean pins.



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27/6/2009 at 5:48pm
 Location: Teesside
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All 3 have gone off so I was thinking the problem was inside the van somewhere??


27/6/2009 at 6:04pm
 Location: Lancashire
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if all three have gone off sounds like an earth or neg problem.check pin three is clean and not broken or loose.

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27/6/2009 at 6:08pm
 Location: Bristol
 Outfit: Lunar Conquest 544 a
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Connect a 12volt battery to pin 3 earth ( negative ) and pin 6 brake ( positive ) on the caravan black plug and see if the brake lights work . If they do you either have a faulty pin connection between plug and car socket or maybe a blown fuse in the car , do the car brake lights work ?

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27/6/2009 at 6:19pm
 Location: Teesside
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The car brake lights do work & I've put a multi meter on the car socket which seems ok. The van is in storage so not easy to check.


27/6/2009 at 6:44pm
 Location: Darlington
 Outfit: Elddis Wisp 5 Birth
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we have a swift too

we found that our back lights went off and they kept blowing the fuses in the car

in the end my hubby looked inside the lights on the van and the wires needed sorting a think they were slightly touching or something like that x

once hed sorted the wires the lights were fine x



06/7/2009 at 2:49pm
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Still not working after changing the black plug, checking the fuses, cleaning connections & bulbs. Does anyone know where the wires run from the front fuse box to the back light units. We have an end bathroom so not obvious where they go. I might have to start dismantling the wardrobe.  17


06/7/2009 at 7:14pm
 Location: Bristol
 Outfit: Lunar Conquest 544 a
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Connect the car up and use a multi-meter at the brake light bulb connection , do you have 12.7 volts there ( remove all brake light bulbs first ) . If you do now try the same again and put a brake light bulb in , what voltage reading do you get now , if the voltage is low you have a bad connection , if you have 12.7 volts or there abouts i'd say it's a bulb fault .
Did you try what i suggested in my last post . You could just run 2 wires direct from your car battery .

atb

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06/7/2009 at 9:43pm
 Location: Teesside
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I'll be doing the testing this weekend. Van is in storage so I need to bring it home. I'm going to connect a spare tow bar plug to my battery to get power into the lighting circuit. Where does the brake light wire change from 1 wire to 3 separate wires? In a junction box near the lights??


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06/7/2009 at 9:52pm
 Location: Bristol
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Where does the brake light wire change from 1 wire to 3 separate wires? In a junction box near the lights??
It usually splits at the rear , goes from one light to the other and then to a high level one if you have one .

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06/7/2009 at 10:01pm
 Location: Watford
 Outfit: Bailey Ranger 510-4L
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I had a similar problem and tried most of the suggestions here. The actual cause was a corroded connector inside the lamp housing which must have been shorting. It wasn't so bad as to blow the fuse and I hadn't noticed the other brake light was working but very dim. Can you remove the lamp and/or check the feed wires to the lamp.
Of course, like all things electrical I 'think' this was the cause of the problem - it did solve it though


06/7/2009 at 10:59pm
 Location: Teesside
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I spent 2 hours in the sun at the weekend on a site in Helmsley taking the lights off then cleaning up all the connections. Also put new 12N plug on. No change. Definitely got power to the internal fuse so problem must be further back.


07/7/2009 at 8:48pm
 Location: Shropshire North Wales borders
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Not trying to teach my Granny, please don't be offended, but you have got the car ignition on when you check the brake lights, haven't you?

Only I've lost count of the times when I've been checking friends lights for them after they've hitched up and they haven't turned the ignition on so the brake lights don't work!



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If you can't see the light at the end of the tunnel, just keep going till you go round the bend.


07/7/2009 at 10:58pm
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I always check the lights on the way out of the storage compound with engine on. Might forget to wait for my wife to get back in the car one of these days.


08/7/2009 at 10:10pm
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I know someone who did that too!

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If you can't see the light at the end of the tunnel, just keep going till you go round the bend.



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