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Subject Topic: caravan heating Post Reply Post New Topic
17/9/2009 at 7:14pm
 Location: Merseyside
 Outfit: outwell nevada 3 & swift delamere
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Hi can anyone please explain how the heating works in my 2003 swift caravan, we've never caravanned in the cold weather so never needed it.. if its been a bit chilly we plug in a portable warm air heater... but were thinking of visiting a christmas market this year and think we will need it...
p.s i dont mean the gas fire,, i mean the electric heating...

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17/9/2009 at 8:18pm
 Location: Milton Keynes
 Outfit: Bailey Alliance 66-2 Motorhome
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I assume your van has either the Carver/Truma heater. On electric  it will work up to 2kws so should get the van reasonably warm. What we try and do is leave it on convection for a while to allow it to heat up before before switching  on the warm air fan.

David



17/9/2009 at 9:43pm
 Location: Lancashire
 Outfit: Caravan now Sold
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look here for downloads

http://www.swiftleisure.co.uk/order-a-brochure/Properties/Archive-true



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18/9/2009 at 10:32am
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 Outfit: http: www.arcsystems.biz
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I wrote this about the temperature dial and problems with the heating switching off before it should, the rest are my thoughts on how to get the best out of Truma 'ultraheat' electric heating, don't think it's the finished version but it should help understand it?

The ultraheat is designed to switch back on at 2degs below that set on the dial, one division on the dial is 4degs and it goes to a maximum 9 which is 32degs.
The problem is normally caused by the position of the temperature sensor which as standard is in the control switch, a remote sensor normally cures the problem of the heating switching off before the vans warm, 'if' fitted correctly? sadly 'factory/dealer fit' remotes can be equally poorly sited.

Some pictures here and....

.....a bit more on the subject;

The Ultraheat’s wattage settings are there so you can make use of low amperage hookups, 500W for 6A, 1000W for 10A and 2000W for 16A hookups, their not there to adjust the temperature of the van.

The Ultralheat is thermostatically controlled, therefore the wattage used will simply mean the fire is heating for shorter or longer periods. Where the problems arise then is if the temperature control is not working correctly, this is often due to the heat from the elements directly affecting the sensor itself. This means the heat brings the temperature sensor up to that set on the dial and the elements switch off, you and the vans are still cold but the sensors toasty and takes forever to cool before switching the fire back on!!

Due to this and particularly overnight, it's become something of an urban myth to set it at 500w or 1000w, this or that number on the dial and fan speed setting. In truth what's happening is the available heat is not capable of reaching the set temperature so never switches off, it's a useful work around but not how it should work.
The real solution is to fit a ‘remote’ temperature sensor and attach it to the gas fires sensor, if a remote is already fitted, it to will usually react better if moved to this location.

I would suggest as a start and during the day, the wattage selected is as high as the hook up allows and then fan speed set to maximum on ‘A’.
This provides the maximum heat if required and the fans speed will respond automatically to change in temperature, ie, fast when heat cycle is on and slow when heat is off.
After that you can fine tune to suit your own needs


Other problems concern the control board, the elements are switched on and off by relays and the contacts burn out particularly the 2kw relay.
The 12v for control also comes from this board and the transformer sometimes packs up for no apparent reason but possibly because of a mains voltage spike. Apart from no heat, you will lose the green light in the switch if this happens
Lastly and also if no heat is forth coming, there are two safety thermostats, one at least of these has a habit of self destruction which stops all heating on electric!
The control switch itself seems generally reliable but the odd one does fail.

The numbers on the dial represent roughly 4degs and 9 is 32degs or thereabouts, this in theory makes 6 or 7 'normal' but it's what feels comfortable that matters not the number.

Another problem not caused by the heater itself is long runs of un-insulated blown air pipe running outside under the floor, insulating this will improve matters considerable.


Everything installed and working as it should, there is no good reason why the electric heating should not work very well and keep an even temperature to suit your needs.
However, it must be remembered the van needs to be warmed through thoroughly before the heating is turned down, while the vans cold it will constantly drag heat from the air and this needs constant topping up or the van will always feel draughty. It's most useful then to use gas as well for the first couple of hours and if the heating is off during the day to turn it back on at the first sign of a chill



29/9/2009 at 8:53pm
 Location: Merseyside
 Outfit: outwell nevada 3 & swift delamere
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Many thanks to everyone for your help,,, now all i have to do is get my husband to read and understand the instructions........

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30/9/2009 at 7:47am
 Location: North Wales
 Outfit: Bessacarr E540
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I'm always away at some time in the cold weather and never bother with the van heating. I've got a small convector heater which I leave on low ticking over all the time, and just turn it up a bit if I need to. I wouldn't want to do that with the caravan heating.

Nora


30/9/2009 at 9:14am
 Location: biddulph stoke on trent
 Outfit: sprite quattro Mercedes ML 270
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we always use electric on high 2Kw at first then turn it down to 500 watts once warm with the fan on low only use gas if we have being out and the van is really cold as it warms up a lot faster.



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