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Subject Topic: Indicators wired wrong way round Post Reply Post New Topic
13/10/2009 at 2:48pm
 Location: Live S Wales Caravan in Somerset
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Would welcome your thoughts. The indicator wiring on either the towbar electrics or the caravan are back to front ie. when indicating left, the right hand indicator comes on.

Anyway, where to start really. I've checked the towbar wiring, and it appears to be wired correctly, yellow at the top, green at the bottom, so its more complicated that it seems. Can I just swap the wires round otherwise I'll have to take it back to where the towbar was fitted and get them to try and sort it out.......unless the caravan is wired up wrong?!??

Thanks
John


13/10/2009 at 4:45pm
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If it is correct at the car socket then it sounds like the plug has been wired wrong. Take the plug apart and correct it.


13/10/2009 at 5:18pm
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If the socket is ok, you should check the plug on the caravan in case someone has wired it up wrong. If it's ok, then it would appear that the towbar fitter may have connected the yellow and green wires incorrectly to the wiring loom (very possible, considering the multi-coloured wires that manufacturers now use). If that's the case, you could just swap the yellow and green wires on the car socket.(In doing so, you would probably confuse any future owners of the car if they ever needed to work on the towbar wiring, but I guess that would be their problem then - to help matters though, you could wrap the end of the yellow wire with green tape, and the end of the green wire with yellow tape).


13/10/2009 at 9:44pm
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1 and 4 i would think are the wrong way round on the plug.12N.

Trailer Wiring I

Socket and plug wiring instruction 167
12N Normal Socket 12S Supplementary Socket
1) Left indicator 1) Reverse
2) Fog 2) Battery Charge **
3) Earth 3) Earth
4) Right indicator 4) Power feed
5) Right side light 5) Spare
6) Brake 6) Fridge **
7) Left side light 7) Earth for pin 6 (1998 on)
**NB It is essential that pin 6 is wired through a split relay from 1998 on!!

 



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14/10/2009 at 8:14am
 Location: Live S Wales Caravan in Somerset
 Outfit: Ace Jubilee Aristocrat
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Thanks for your replies, the car was supposedly fitted with a vehicle specific wiring kit which gave me the impression is was just a plug in affair. So I'll work on the basis that its the caravan thats wrong, although other people who have towed it haven't reported a problem. But I guess its not something you tend to look for, more that they are just working ok when checking the lights before setting off.

I'm assuming if everything still wired up correctly, it would be safer to swap the wires on the van than the car

Thanks again
John


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14/10/2009 at 9:09am
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Quote: Originally posted by johnandtamara on 14/10/2009

I'm assuming if everything still wired up correctly, it would be safer to swap the wires on the van than the car

Thanks again
John


Not really John. It would certainly be easier, BUT, if for any reason someone else was towing your 'van (breakdown etc.), the lights would be wrong and could easily cause an accident.




14/10/2009 at 1:42pm
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Is it not just a simple test with a voltmeter?

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14/10/2009 at 2:10pm
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I would check the electrics on the car first as Paul says with a voltmeter. Quick and easy to do.

Or do you know someone with a towbar on their car? Ask them if they would mind hooking up to your van to check the lights that way. You could even try your car on someone elses van/trailer?

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14/10/2009 at 4:11pm
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Fix a set of wheels on roof and tow it upside down.171717


14/10/2009 at 5:20pm
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Quote: Originally posted by johnandtamara on 14/10/2009
Thanks for your replies, the car was supposedly fitted with a vehicle specific wiring kit which gave me the impression is was just a plug in affair. So I'll work on the basis that its the caravan thats wrong, although other people who have towed it haven't reported a problem. But I guess its not something you tend to look for, more that they are just working ok when checking the lights before setting off.

I'm assuming if everything still wired up correctly, it would be safer to swap the wires on the van than the car

Thanks again
John

The plug in wiring kits plug in at the light clusters usually, so this end will certainly be correct. The other end that connects to the 12N socket comes a bare wires as it has to be passed through the vehicle body before connecting to the socket, so it is quite possible the wires could be incorrect in the socket.

I had a rear end shunt a few years ago and the car came back from the repairers with the towbar electrics reversed.

 



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15/10/2009 at 8:23pm
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If the caravan has recently fitted with a new 12n plug, its a simple matter to unscrew & check the wiring is correct.

If the caravan has been towed before with no problem it will be the towbar wiring. Even if it is vehicle specific it can still be faulty. Take it back & get it sorted.


16/10/2009 at 11:15pm
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Quote: Originally posted by SHANTY SINGER on 14/10/2009
Fix a set of wheels on roof and tow it upside down.171717

or swap the bulbs over?

 




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