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26/10/2009 at 9:12pm
 Location: southeast kent
 Outfit: Bailey Pegasus ancona
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i have been looking at the pros and cons of putting a cover over my caravan,after looking at so many different replies i have decided not to,however since my van wont be opened for at least 4 or so months i was thinking of running a heater in it only at night time when the air is most damp to help keep the damp out.

what do you guys think ?


26/10/2009 at 10:32pm
 Location: Teesside
 Outfit:  Mitsubishi ASX4
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Basically a waste of electricity. Heat will not keep the damp out. It will, however alter the temperature differential between the inside of the van and the outside which could cause condensation, so it might do more harm than good. The caravan has numerous vents which give a steady airflow through the van so the humidity inside the van generally will be the same as that outside whatever you do. 

Neither will it help any damp penetrating into the walls of the caravan from the outside, as the plastic lining on the walls acts as a waterproof barrierpreventing the damp evaporating to the inside.



26/10/2009 at 11:24pm
 Location: Atherton Manchester
 Outfit: Ford Mondeo TDCI & 5M Bell Tent
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Would it not be cheaper to simply put a moisture trap in?

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27/10/2009 at 12:09am
 Location: Rochdale
 Outfit: Hymer Nova 470 Mondeo titanium 140tdc
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It is cheaper still to just leave it and do nothing. Just make sure that the next time you come to use it that you air the van off by heating it for a day to the temperature that you would live in it, before you set off. I have never in 17 years had any problems caused by doing this and the van has always stayed pleasnat and usable

Damp from the air you will not have a problem with but damp that makes its way into the walls by penetrating in through the screw holes and past the sealant will in the end destroy your van, keeping the van warm will do nothing to stop this.

 



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For a licence dated 1997 or later you must add together the plated max weight of the caravan and trailer, if the total is 3500 or less you can tow it. You may even tow a caravan with a MAM greater than the cars unladen mass the restriction was removed in 2013

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27/10/2009 at 1:56am
 Location: Argyll Scotland
 Outfit: 1997 Bailey Ranger 470 4
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My van sits in my workshop so I have no problems with frost but the material does get that damp feel after a few months.

About a week before I want to use it again I put a dehumidifier in and that runs 24/7 until it does not pull out any more moisture.

During this time, all the cushoins etc are stood up on end so that the air can circulate around everything

My van is tiny (see gallery) so a bigger van make require a longer time to dry completely.



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27/10/2009 at 7:12am
 Location: Hampshire
 Outfit: Hymer Nova S
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Quote: Originally posted by LobeyDosser on 27/10/2009

I put a dehumidifier in and that runs 24/7 until it does not pull out any more moisture.




Not quite sure how you know the dehumidifier is not pulling out any more moisture? Unless the van is sealed or it's a very low humidity day the dehumidifier will still be collecting water by drying out the local atmosphere.
We use our dehumidifier but only just after a trip to take our moisture from the fabric of the van and just before a trip, usually set on 8 hours.

Personally drying the van out after late seasons use is we feel by far the most important thing to do, be it mechanically with the dehumidifier or well timed airing.



27/10/2009 at 8:28am
 Location: north east england
 Outfit: 1981 elddis shamal
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we have a unibond chemical de-humidifier, no need for power of any sort and it draws the latent moisture out of the air inside the van pretty effectively.


27/10/2009 at 2:22pm
 Location: Argyll Scotland
 Outfit: 1997 Bailey Ranger 470 4
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Hi JTQU, I know when it has reached the max that it will pulled out of the van when the amount of water in the receptor tank remains the same for the same period of time.

From experience, I know that in my case, if the tank gets only one quarter full in a 24 hour period, then my van is as dry as it is going to get.

However, because I store my van in a garage/workshop, I use its kitchen and toilet facilities throughout the winter, but not the bedding or the lounge seating. It is these cushions that I am aiming the dehumidifier at to dry out before a trip.
Naturally the dehumidifier will also get used between trips some times, depending on what the weather has been like during these trips.

With 2 dogs, on wet trips there can be a fair amount of moisture brought into the van on 8 hairy legs. 17 



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27/10/2009 at 4:16pm
 Location: Teesside
 Outfit:  Mitsubishi ASX4
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Quote: Originally posted by leccyshep on 27/10/2009
we have a unibond chemical de-humidifier, no need for power of any sort and it draws the latent moisture out of the air inside the van pretty effectively.

... and more water vapour comes in through the vents to replace that absorbed by the chemical dehumidifier. Therefore it will appear to make a big difference, but in reality will make no difference at all, especially as chemical dehumidifiers work so slowly

Lobey's solution is perhaps more sensible if using the van out of season. If you are going to use an electric dehumidifier, put it on a few days before going away to really air the van, and perhaps for a few days on returning to remove the excess  moisture caused by habitation.

Link this also to Lobey's comment on another post about how draughty many current caravans are on a windy day.



28/10/2009 at 4:50pm
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: Bailey Pageant
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I agree with Janus and Freeatlast.

Do nothing!

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29/10/2009 at 6:05pm
 Location: Swindon
 Outfit: Swift Challenger & Freelander
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It's a good idea to open all the cupboard and locker doors though - this allows air to circulate around.


29/10/2009 at 9:38pm
 Location: southeast kent
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so iam i right in thinking that even dehumidifiers are a waste of time? at thats is best to do nothing?


29/10/2009 at 10:27pm
 Location: Argyll Scotland
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You do whatever feels right for you.

All I know is that my first trip away in my van after it had been laid up for the winter, I couldn't sleep the first night because the bedding was damp and that dampness penetrated the sleeping bag and I was chittering with the cold all night.

Now, because I use the dehumidifier, I sleep warm and cosy every night and as I spend more time in the van sleeping than I do doing anything else, I pay special attention to that side of things when I am prepairing the van for its caravan season.



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30/10/2009 at 7:16am
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Quote: Originally posted by jasonshort on 29/10/2009so iam i right in thinking that even dehumidifiers are a waste of time? at thats is best to do nothing?


Not in my book; they are far from a waste of time getting the damp out of the van directly after you have used the van in a damp winter period. If you dont use your van other than in the better weather parts of a year then it is.
Its fine if you can air it naturally on a dry day but we cant control the weather to ensure getting that dry winters day when we return home, so when necessary use the dehumidifier.
I am talking mechanical dehumidifiers not the bowl of salt or other desiccant types; you need a truck load for them to hold much moisture, thus they only benefit the seller.



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