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Subject Topic: Preventative sealing with Sikaflex? Post Reply Post New Topic
19/3/2010 at 5:17pm
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Dear all,

Can I have opinions from all you clever people?  I have a touring 'van I keep under cover and never seriously worry about damp - always ok on our annual service (and it's quite new).  But I'm planning to buy a second, slightly older (5-6 years) 'van to keep outside on a seasonal pitch year round. 

I read a post on here from someone who bought an old 'van, it wasn't damp, but he queried if he should consider going round all the seals/rails etc with a squeeze of sikaflex as a preventative measure.  No one seemed terribly enthusiastic about the plan and one post suggested he'd do more harm than good.

Can anyone please explain the lack of enthusiasm as I would have thought it would be a good idea - but what do I know?  I have a desk job...  My first caravan started to get damp (I first noticed when the wallboards were discoloured after a rainy break).  It was too old to warrant spending too much on it and we were planning to trade up in the following year or so anyway.  I ended up doing a quick and dirty run around all the seals/vent/awning joints with Sikaflex and was really impressed with it's adhesion.  It did take a lot of  finger smoothing/meths clean up of excess Sikaflex at the end, but the bond was completely solid and cosmetically acceptable once I'd spent an age meticulously smoothing/removing excess.  When I took the 'van in for part-exchange 18 months later, the bond was still as good as the day it was done and no damp was detected.

Yes, I can hear you all cry 'bodge' - that I should have removed the awning rails/rubbers etc - but that would have taken an age and I did my entire 'van in a day  - a race against time before the next holiday loomed.

So I suppose the question is - if I do this on my seasonal pitch tourer as a preventative measure, why might it do more harm than good?  Might it not stave off damp problems that result in the inevitable degradation of the sealants used in manufacture?  I have to say that, after the first experience of Sikaflex, I'm a big fan - it just seemed so solid (yet flexible..) and, well, waterproof....



19/3/2010 at 5:55pm
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I suppose the answers really lays in what you prefer in your desk job - a job well done and presented or something bodged up with a who cares attitude?

Yes you can run sikaflex down the edges of the rails and finger smear it into place but remember meths or white spirit weakens it and you may just finger smear it away from a water ingress point. Then you'll get water entering your van and may not even know about it until it becomes an horrendous patch of rot.

This is why it is always best to take off the rails and do the job properly.

But... If you really feel the need to do it as a preventative rather than do it 'properly' then maybe Caratape has been produced for you


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I was advised by a caravan service engineer to use a thin bead of this (the MS one)and then clear away the small amount of excess with a paper towel soaked in an industrial ink cleaner (not meths or white spirit). I've done this every 18 months and it works fine.

This is something that the engineer does for his customers and is not a 'bodge' and can only be a good idea as stresses, including awnings, heat, cold etc will move the rail and break down the awning rail adhesive.

I've used the same adhesive to seal the shower at home and it is much better even than expensive silicone.

If you already have damp then I would fully reseal the rails, but as a maintainance measure it is much better than doing nothing and waiting for damp to appear.

Hope this helps...

AK

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But... If you really feel the need to do it as a preventative rather than do it 'properly' then maybe Caratape has been produced for you

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Thanks very much for your thoughts - it seems no one agrees whether it's worth doing as a preventative measure!  By the way, I read somewhere (was it John Wickersham's caravan manual?  Can't remember now...) that, whilst white spirit can adversely affect adhesion properties, meths doesn't - which is why I used it last time - and as I said above, the bond was extremely strong.

And, no, I don't bodge in my desk job - but I am strong believer in prevention being better than cure.




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