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Yes there area number of legal issues to comply with before you undertake any work

1. Second hand gas cookers must comply with the Gas Cooking Appliance (Safety) Regulations 1989. Folks are prohibited from selling cookers which do not satisfy these requirements so I assume that you will have evidence that your cooker is compliant. if you don't then don't use it. Just looking at your picture and she doesn't look like she should be endangered.

2. The cooker will need to be checked by a "competent" person to certify that it complies with the law before it is installed

3. The law of the land that fitting of gas appliances has to be undertaken by someone who is on the Gas Safe Register.

http://www.gassaferegister.co.uk/

I am assuming from your question that you are not registered, and forgive me if I have taken an assumption too far. If you are not registered then, if you do the work yourself without satisfying the matters set out above, you will break the law and probably invalidate any insurance policy you have on your van. Check with your insurers. Further, you may have difficulty in selling the van in the future if you cannot show that the oven complies with the regs and has been fitted by a registered competant person. 

Phil

Good lad..the thing is I know that many folk fit things in vans because its fun to do it but they don't think about the legals....and potential consequences...so just thought I would mention it

Have fun

Phil

ubuntu1 says "Lets be careful when we quote the law. Caravans and other touring vehicles fall outside of the Gas Regs. (except when things go wrong!)"

I am, and with respect

1. You can't say that the Regs don't apply and then add "except when things go wrong". If they apply when things go wrong they have to apply from the start

2. The Regs relate to gas "appliances"; their sale use maintenance etc. If I could  draw your attention to Regulation 2 this defines an "appliance" regulated by the Regs. It reads

"appliance" means any equipment which is designed or suitable for domestic use in a dwelling, ship or caravan and is designed for cooking by means of the burning of gas, whether or not the equipment has other functions as well and whether it is designed to rest directly on the floor or on a table or other raised surface or to be fixed to a wall or other upright structure or supported by any other equipment, but does not include any equipment which is designed for use out-of-doors or in a tent;"

More a case of lets be careful not to misquote the law. Many folks on here rely on the value of the information on this message board so please don't infer that non qulaified persons are legitimately entitled to undertake work on gas appliances. After all we don't want them parking their van next to ours..

Very valid point, ubuntu1, on ensuring that the "competent" person you employ to undertake work on your appliance is qualified to deal with the type of cookers under discussion on this thread.

Phil

"3. The law of the land that fitting of gas appliances has to be undertaken by someone who is on the Gas Safe Register."

Apologies should have read

3. The law of the land that fitting of gas appliances has to be undertaken by someone who is competent and that can be evidenced by being on the Gas Safe Register.

For statics you need to use a gas safe registered person.

Phil

sell the oven and buy a microwave/convection oven simple safer and quicker.

neil 

Quote: Originally posted by cwdc56768 on 31/3/2010

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Yes there area number of legal issues to comply with before you undertake any work

1. Second hand gas cookers must comply with the Gas Cooking Appliance (Safety) Regulations 1989. Folks are prohibited from selling cookers which do not satisfy these requirements so I assume that you will have evidence that your cooker is compliant. if you don't then don't use it. Just looking at your picture and she doesn't look like she should be endangered.

2. The cooker will need to be checked by a "competent" person to certify that it complies with the law before it is installed

3. The law of the land that fitting of gas appliances has to be undertaken by someone who is on the Gas Safe Register.

http://www.gassaferegister.co.uk/

I am assuming from your question that you are not registered, and forgive me if I have taken an assumption too far. If you are not registered then, if you do the work yourself without satisfying the matters set out above, you will break the law and probably invalidate any insurance policy you have on your van. Check with your insurers. Further, you may have difficulty in selling the van in the future if you cannot show that the oven complies with the regs and has been fitted by a registered competant person. 

Phil

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Rousie.since this topic has been hi jacked i have been outside to my caravan to check and there is a lining in the opening.and yes it was fitted originally.

Neil

Nice one ubuntu1. I think that there has been a bit of a leap here from what has been said to something else. I have simply commented that the Gas Cooking Appliance (Safety) Regulations 1989 apply to the sale of cookers to be used in caravans and offered guidance to the OP to check that the appliance conforms in terms of safety before its installation. Some folks may not be aware of these requirements.

Rune Caster says that the Regs do not apply to private caravans. There are many "Gas Regs" and I believe that Mr Rune is focussed on The Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998 which do not apply to touring caravans (unless hired for business). (Regulation 2(5)(e)).     

Back to the 1989 Regs if you wish for additional confirmation upon their relevance to caravans visit

http://www.derbyshire.gov.uk/images/sfy19_tcm9-8342.pdf

or

http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/cgi-bin/wirral/bus1item.cgi?file=*BADV614-1111.txt

or any Local Authority Trading Standards web site

It is important to note that the requirements of the gas "Regs" are in addition to, and not in substitution for, the more general requirements of the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974 which applies to the sites our touring vans visit. The owners of those sites must ensure, so far as reasonably practicable, that no one is put at risk from those using the site. (section 3(2)). Its only a small step following a gas related incident for inspectors to take issue with site owners if they have permitted defective gas appliances onto the site. e.g Prosecution in Doncaster (admittedly for privately caravans gving off carbon monoxide) but the prosecution was under the all embracing obligation in section 3(2) (which can easily cover touring caravans) and not under any Gas Regs. Then there were inspections of sites by Health and Safety officials in Wales a couple of years back; etc.

You have a contract with the CC when using their sites and one of the contract conditions reads

"Most caravans and motor homes have Liquid Petroleum Gas (LPG) systems fitted a standard. We strongly advise that members have their gas system checked by a Corgi Registered fitter annually before use."

There is a raft of legislation addressing various aspects of gas safety, either directly or indirectly, and folks need to deal with their appliances correctly

Phil  

(Apologies for the hi jack. Cambridgecockney is right. Advice offered, comments, response and things move on. Apologies)