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06/6/2010 at 10:38pm
 Location:  Staffordshire
 Outfit: Freedom Microlite
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Has anyone fitted or refitted a Freedom Microlite from scratch? We have the opportunity to aquire one but it needs a complete refit. While we don't particularly find this daunting, we would like to communicate with anyone else who has taken on this task. Many thanks.



07/6/2010 at 10:52am
 Location: south cheshire
 Outfit: VW Caddy Maxi
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Although I haven't I would like to say that at least you're starting with just a refit - you won't have a lot of damp to fix as well!

Lovely little lightweight vans, I would point out that in order to remain lightweight, you need to make sure that whatever you put in there needs to be lightweight as well.

Sorry can't help more, but someone who has will be along soon, I bet!

You're not far from the Freedom dealers at Stafford though, if you need anything!


13/6/2010 at 10:03pm
 Location: crewe
 Outfit: Elddis Xplore 302 and Nissan Campervan
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Hi Framer, we recently bought a Microlite and created a shower room from the toilet room. This involved quite a bit of work but the end result has been much admired and it has transformed the caravan. It is effectively a "wet" room now and we can stay on CL's with no facilities at all.Video available once I can master the new camera software convertor. I have managed to download some technical info from the Predom European websites. I have experience of fibreglass repair and am willing to help with photos of our caravan etc if I can help in any way. There are a few jobs I would like to do to further improve and restore my own 'van. I am also in Staffordshire.There's a few things to watch for: the fibreglass seems a bit thin around the front side walls windows where our "LE" model has the sofa dinette. I intend strengthening ours where you leen backwards against the walls. Let me know if we can discuss and help each other via the web. I am fascinated with these little 'vans. Got a new awning from Holland. Freedom at Stafford no longer stock them despite promises to re-stock. next project a crank up sat dish !   cheers !



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13/6/2010 at 10:40pm
 Location: pembrokeshire
 Outfit: elfdis chiltington caravan
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hi  i bought a freedome 3 years ago  got it home and was so disopointed did not look at it for about 3 weeks  then dicided o well  so i striped all the bunks cubards  and  striped it down to a bare shell   insalated all the walls with new thin insalation  and coverd all wales with carpet   put hardboard roof   took about 2 weeks    and loved it  it was not a hard job as everything   screws out    give it a go    its not tht hard   ian  ps please excuse spelling      


19/6/2010 at 1:19pm
 Location:  Staffordshire
 Outfit: Freedom Microlite
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Thank you for your replies. Dinkum I'd like more info on your conversion from toilet to shower room. Grandad.Wales I'd be interested to know what insulation you used and what adhesive was best to secure it with - and obviously any problems you encountered at the time. I know that this will be a long project but I'm expecting that.


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08/7/2010 at 9:30am
 Location: pembrokeshire
 Outfit: elfdis chiltington caravan
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hi  good luck the bigest job is getting started    i got my insulation from b&q  it wase silver  very thin   glue was carpet spray  glue      ian


09/7/2010 at 6:11pm
 Location:  Staffordshire
 Outfit: Freedom Microlite
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Many thanks. I'll be getting started then!!


10/7/2010 at 9:58am
 Location: crewe
 Outfit: Elddis Xplore 302 and Nissan Campervan
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Framer, just seen your thread again. I will put together the info and post it as soon as possible.

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11/7/2010 at 11:30am
 Location: crewe
 Outfit: Elddis Xplore 302 and Nissan Campervan
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Hi Framer,

    Shower tray, from ebay , new in white GRP 584mm x 584mm x 95mm deep. Buy it now price £34.99p   It's a square tray with corner waste. I fitted it immediately behind the toilet room door and had to trim the corner with a saw , so that the door would close properly. The floor is double skinned, wooden top layer and a fibreglass shell about 75 mm below that. I checked first before I drilled to make sure I did not hit anything or weaken the structure.

Mini corner basin in white GRP (matches spot on!) 280mm x 280mm x 100mm deep. £11.99p ebay buy it now price. Also got the waste fitting for £4.49p inc p&p (seller is caravanstuff4u 60983). This was fitted on the back wall outer corner and leaves enough space for the porta potti seat to lift up and back against the window wall at the rear of my caravan. CAUTION: some models Microlite LE or Predom imports may have window in side wall. Mine is a 96 LE UK Freedom Microlite.

The plumbing itself uses a 12v portable shower (for camping) found on Amazon for £18.90p. Now, before everyone laughs, I have now used this shower and it works brilliantly! We use a 10 litre water carrier alongside the porta potti, fill it with 2 kettles of hot water into another 6 to 8 litres cold and you have a warm shower. It is good enough to wash shampoo from my wifes' long hair too. The handset is heavy duty and has on/off button. The control and battery box (it can work from 2 DD batteries too, as well as van 12v system) is waterproof inc the on /off button. I made a bracket to angle the shower head just right into the basin for hand washing. I discarded the rubber sucker mount and screwed the plastic holder to my wooden bracket. Now the shower head acts as both tap and is removable as a "flying lead" hand held shower.

I covered the bracket with white uPvc to water proof it.

Making the "wet room":-  I first stripped out the felt wall linings and left the veneered wall and doors in place. I then used No Nails or similar adhesive to glue carefully cut timber strips to the walls to take the uPvc wall board and to locate the shower head bracket above the basin. I put horizontal wood strips , behind the uPvc to hold the basin securely. I made carrier timber frame for the shower tray and a Plywood under tray sheet to give a flat support to the fairly thin tray. I needed an "indent" under this board to allow for a dome head chassis bolt to clear.

Once the shower tray was fitted and re-fitted s few times to check everything was "snug", I then built a slightly sloping false floor for the porta potti and water bottle to sit on between the shower tray position and the rear wall of the 'van. This was covered with vinyl flooring glued down properly.

The shower tray was then stuck down in place using silicone seal around the top edges only. Once this was done , I then fitted uPvc soffit boarding to the side and rear walls, sealing all around with silicone. The side wall was finished as a flat wall and ends just below the roof felt line (IMPORTANT leave about 45mm of side wall felt in place and lay the wallboard over this for a nice edge.) The rear wall follows the outward shape of the caravan. That is a top and bottom panel joining over the timber frame where the caravan pull handles are fitted. A uPvc covering strip was used for neat finish. Angled uPvc strip was used in all corners with silicone.

A couple of mirrors were fitted to brighten it up further and a 15mm shower curtain  rail above the door with a curtain protecting the vinyl veneer covered door. I fitted a "drip rail" in stainless steel on the inside of the toilet room door just above where it meets the existing framework. Our wet room is leak free and no water escapes via the door. The wash basin waste is almost right in the rear offside corner and the two wastes are fastened together with nylon electrical ties and go into one waste carrier on site. The last job was make good the area beneath the shower tray where it meets the door opening. I did this again with timber covered with uPvc sheet and siliconed smaller angle sections to cover corners.

Important: use the smallest and lightest section timber etc to minimise the weight.The wall boards weigh very little as does the shower tray and basin.

I have video of the finished shower room but do not know how to provide a link or download it to this site. Will do so, if anyone can advise later.



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17/11/2016 at 5:15pm
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: None Entered
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Just stripping mine out now...Found that I have a very leaky roof. when I looked at the roof from the outside ..It is covered in spider type cracks..I have a feeling that rain is seeping through the fine cracks in to the inside of the caravan!..Ekk cant bring it inside so don't know what to do as I cant re-do the lining until that's fixed!! any ideas would be appreciated.


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09/12/2016 at 7:30pm
 Location: crewe
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Only just seen surdojen's post. A lond time ago, I totally restored a MK I., Cox GTM fibreglass sportscar, including some areas od spidercracking.
First cover the roof to keep out rain. Then dry the inside exposed surface. You can then use fibreglass matting and resin ( it's messy upside down!) to cover the spider cracked area. From the outside, vee out the worst cracks with a dremel or similar and then fill with body filler. Smooth off and spray. There is no easy way out. It may be cheaper to change for a caravan in better condition.

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