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Subject Topic: Damp Meters and Damp Problems Post Reply Post New Topic
20/7/2010 at 12:23pm
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Hi,

I recently bought a 1969 Bluebird Eurocamper caravan. It has, in the past had a problem with damp. Mainly in the front right hand corner which I assume is from a loose grab handle. I have temporary sealed up the loose grab handle using sikaflex until I have the some more knowledge on repairing damp. I aim to take the awning rail off in the future and have a go at resealing the van.

Suprisingly, there is only a 5cm square patch of rotten wood in the hardbord panel inside the caravan. However behind this is a very soft piece of the wooden frame which you can literally scoop out with your fingers. It looks like mud, but wasn't very wet to touch!


I decided to buy a damp detector from B&Q. I stuck the pins into the wood yesterday and noticed that it was giving low crackling sounds all over the caravan especially in the corners. It wasn't exactly screaming out and the hardboard has no staining on it.

The rotten corner gave a low reading also. I stuffed a piece of tissue into the hole and no moisture was drawn up onto the tissue.

Am I correct in thinking that Wood always holds a certain amount of moisture? When I tested the caravan yesterday it was an wet miserable damp day. Should I expect this on a day like this?

The rotten corner gave a low reading also. I stuffed a piece of tissue into the hole and no moisture was drawn up onto the tissue.


20/7/2010 at 12:38pm
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Hi Megandmog

We're doing a damp repair at the moment and we bought ourselves a B&Q damp meter when we started.

To be honest it's been left in a drawer after the first couple of days - it never really indicated much of a problem even when we stuck it into wood which (like yours) had turned to sludge. I know from Wizards site that he recommends a more 'advanced' sort of damp meter - the type that express damp as a percentage, this sort will not only tell you if you've got damp but also to what extent. 

You're right about wood having a certain amount of moisture in it anyway - the Haynes manual says that a damp reading of 16-20% means further investigation is needed (which implies to me that 0-15% 'dampness' is to be expected and is nothing to worry about)

We have a lot of wood that's rotted away to powder but which feels bone dry to the touch. It's dry because we've successfully resealed that area but once its rotten it's rotten and needs replacing. It's not a hard job, just needs patience and a bit of planning before you start.

For what it's worth, the way we're dealing with our damp problem is this - it its sludgey/powdery/crumbly it's taken out. If its stained but feels solid when stabbed (sorry, probed) with a penknife it's treated with wet wood hardener. Not scientific and probably not the correct way to do it but in the absence of a more reliable and expensive damp meter it's the best option we have.

Good Luck with the repair, Kelly



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20/7/2010 at 12:41pm
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(P.S I would definately recommend spending an hour or so reading through the Fixed It club members posts  - there's SO much information and advice there it's an absolute gold mine)

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23/7/2010 at 8:26am
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I'm a caravan engineer and the cheap damp meters really aren't up to the job. The meters we use are well over £100 and are very sensitive. You could get a local engineer to do a full damp survey for you, its not expensive and it will give you a full picture of the van.

All wood will contain a certain amount of moisture. What I get from customers is - I can't see any damp, I can't smell any damp and it doesn't feel damp. You can't trust your senses you need a good meter.

Good luck with your repairs I have seen some amazing repairs and the Fix IT Club does some great work.


21/8/2010 at 4:40pm
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I've got a damp tester, it has a meter. Tried it on the palm of my 'Dry' hand and got a reading from 0-16%!



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