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16/8/2010 at 1:33pm
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I have a Coachman Mirage 350/2 1994

With EHU I get interferance to radio/dvd player plus freeview unit all working off 12 volt battery (buzzing + poor picture) when battary charger is switch on.If I switch it off all works fine.

Can anybody help? ADGE11

 



16/8/2010 at 7:43pm
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Are you sure it's the EHU?  On my last van I used to get interference from a flourescent light.  Took me ages to find out what was causing it.  I think you can get suppressors but I never got around to sorting it as I changed vans soon after I found the cause of the problem.


16/8/2010 at 8:04pm
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Thanks mked

with only the radio on and battary charger on I get the buzzing.

Turn the charger off the buzzing stops  Going to car spares shop to-morrow for suppressors



17/8/2010 at 10:45am
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My first guess is the charger is out of control and pumping out over 15 volts! this certainly interferes with radio reception but is also wrecking your battery!!

Voltage reading should be no more than 13.8v, if you have a coloured volt meter in the van, then this should read 1/3 up the green.

If it's hard over to the right then it's 15v+



17/8/2010 at 5:32pm
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HI Gary

tested voltage output 13.6v 

battary output is 12.8v



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17/8/2010 at 9:27pm
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Hi Adge. What sort of charger are you using? The normal car battery charger will not produce true DC voltages. what it does supply is simply a rectified AC at around 13.8 volts. This means the voltage it gives out swings from 0 volts to 13.8 volts 50 times a second (or 100 times a second for a full wave rectifier) which leads to the buzzing. In old fashioned terms, it needs some smoothing on the power link to the radio and TV. Many years ago I could have given you a simple circuit to do this. As far as I can remember, you simply need a large value electrolytic capacitor across the feed and this should remove most of the hum.
I'm sure there must be some electronics experts on here who can help more.

Pete


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18/8/2010 at 8:57am
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Hi Pete

the charger is the one fitted as new with the van Coachman Mirage 350/2 1994. Power Management System (PMS 1 HS)



18/8/2010 at 9:10am
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I find the same if we are abroad. I like to listen to radio 5 live on med wave but can't get it if the charger is switched on. Too much interference. Turn it off and reception is fine. We don't keep the charger permanently on. Just switch it on for an hour or so each day.

 



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18/8/2010 at 12:28pm
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The PMS1, infact all PMS units, are very stable 'switch mode power supplies,' not simple 'transformers' as Pete described. 

So the source of the humming, given it's not over volting, might be the battery on it's way out and overloading it, in general they are silent

Switch the 'car/van' switch to the middle position, this disconnects the battery and leaves the charger to supply the van on it's own, see if the noise stops then?

Not sure other than that, could be a lot of things?



18/8/2010 at 10:05pm
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Switch mode power supplies switch the mains at a high frequency, something above 30kHz. The unit is 15+years old and may well be on its way out, with components starting to fail and almost certainly this could cause radio interference. If this is the case the only solution is a new charger.


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18/8/2010 at 10:26pm
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You could go to Maplin and buy a ceramic ring filter then wind the power wire around it to form a filter


19/8/2010 at 4:29pm
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Thanks Charly008

Went to Maplin got one, but it did not work thay told me to fix it on the battary wires beteen battary and charger

 



19/8/2010 at 4:43pm
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Hi Gary

I did what you said,caravan switch in the middle it worked no buzzing etc.

This I will do next time we have EHU

May I say a LARGE thank you to all how helped with my problem



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Your welcome but I'd get your battery checked, nothing wrong with the charger



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