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Subject Topic: Pre-wired Loom Foglight problem Post Reply Post New Topic
Persondinkum
27/1/2012 at 9:34am
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I fitted a "plug in " towing loom on my Fiesta (1.6 tdci Titanium) when I fitted the towbar over 12 months ago. The fog light on the car then ceased to work and despite checking connections which I can access, it still does not. Bulb is OK. I believe that the first MOT will fail on this. As anyone else had a similar problem?

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Personjohnjory
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No personal experience, but try unplugging your towing loom and see if rear fog comes back on.


PersonOpensauce
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Its possible you need a software update at main dealer workshop. Dedicated towbar looms sometimes need this.


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27/1/2012 at 2:36pm
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Towbar wiring on modern vehicles is sometimes designed to be 'smart' ie recognise when a trailer is connected & act accordingly, ie in this case disable rear fog on car when towing. To work correctly it needs a software update which might be the case here. Usually can only be done at main dealer for about £40.


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not sure if MOT does the lighting check,i thought it was only for towbar security,ie.fixings.some wire diagrams do not include the rear fog

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Trailer/caravan electrical socket, MOT

There will be a basic security/damage check of 7-pin sockets,

13-pin sockets will be subject to a full electrical connectivity check and incorrectly connected or inoperative circuits will result in failure.


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27/1/2012 at 5:32pm
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thanks phil83

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The car rear foglight certainly needs to work for mot. Separate issue from towbar itself which is also included in mot.


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28/1/2012 at 12:03am
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rang my friend who does MOT checks and he said although 13 pin connections were being done now he has been told that the 7 pin check will follow shortly,maybe a few weeks.

Post last edited on 28/01/2012 00:09:00

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My dad had his 7pin socket tested for his MOT 2 weeks ago. & I was told in December, when I had my MOT, that it would be tested in Jan. He never said there was any distinction between 7 & 13 pin sockets.

As for the OP, check your plug socket. Most modern trailer lighting sockets have a set of terminals which disable the rear fog light whilst towing (as it reflects off the caravan & can dazzle/disturb the driver). It's just possible your socket has been connected incorrectly or the terminals may have some muck/grit in them.

Is it a 7 pin socket or the newer 13pin socket?
Did the socket come pre-wired or was it just the loom?
Check to see if the socket pin for the rear fog light has any power at it with the switch on, as this could well answer your question.

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Persondinkum
28/1/2012 at 10:00pm
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Great response, many thanks to all. Tentz , once again good advice and Matt, I will check that the pre-wired socket is correctly set up (7 pin). I have a much better idea what to look for now. Got a feeling it could need the software updating, it's a 2009 model with all singing/dancing reactive wiring ,I believe. Cheers !

 



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29/1/2012 at 10:09pm
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Good old "modern technology" eh?

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30/1/2012 at 3:39pm
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MOT for cavavan electrical equipment fitted to tow bars. 

This from VOSA web site   RfRs from April/May 2012

SECTION 1:  Electrical wiring insecure or inadequatley supported or its insulation excessively damaged or deterioated.

A trailer electrical socket insecure or damaged or deterioated to the extent that the connecting lead could not be securely connected.

A trailer 13-pin Euro socket not operating the trailer lamps as intended

Until April it is only advisory

Do not hold me to this I am only reading off a print out ( I am unable to photocopy and put on here)   Adge11

 


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30/1/2012 at 4:43pm
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Tentz, had chance to investigate further and it seems that you are right (again  ). getting it checked out in good time before heading off with the caravan. Thanks to all

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