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08/3/2012 at 4:59pm
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Hi,

I would like to install an oven in my 1990 Sprite Alpine. The space for the oven is there in the form of a large cupboard underneath the two ring burner and grille. I have bought a second hand oven from a guy who was breaking a couple of vans, it's an Optimus 6020 and it looks very similar to the Rose oven I had in my Bailey, It even has Edward Rose on the back of it.

The reason I want an oven is I used the oven alot in my first van and I think I will miss it if I don't fit one.

Anyway, My question is, Do I need a vent at the rear of the oven to the outside ? I remember my Bailey had one in the back panel as the kitchen area was at the back but in my Sprite it's down the side. I have seen some vans fitted with an oven and no vent to the outside.

I really would like to avoid cutting a hole but If I do need one I guess I'll have to get the cutting tools out. Could I get away with lining the inside of the cupboard with some sheet steel ?

The Oven I've got looks like it might have been a free standing one looking at the brackets on it and it has an outer casing which is painted/coated. I've lifted the top off and it's insulated between the outer casing and the inner wall of the oven.

Any advice much appreciated.

Matt.



08/3/2012 at 9:20pm
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Matt,

Given the CO emissions inherent with any gas oven, would respectfully suggest taking expert advice for your project.

PS, I agree that an oven in a 'van is great!



08/3/2012 at 9:42pm
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Quote: Originally posted by CortinaMatt on 08/3/2012

Hi,

I would like to install an oven in my 1990 Sprite Alpine. The space for the oven is there in the form of a large cupboard underneath the two ring burner and grille. I have bought a second hand oven from a guy who was breaking a couple of vans, it's an Optimus 6020 and it looks very similar to the Rose oven I had in my Bailey, It even has Edward Rose on the back of it.

The reason I want an oven is I used the oven alot in my first van and I think I will miss it if I don't fit one.

Anyway, My question is, Do I need a vent at the rear of the oven to the outside ? I remember my Bailey had one in the back panel as the kitchen area was at the back but in my Sprite it's down the side. I have seen some vans fitted with an oven and no vent to the outside.

I really would like to avoid cutting a hole but If I do need one I guess I'll have to get the cutting tools out. Could I get away with lining the inside of the cupboard with some sheet steel ?

The Oven I've got looks like it might have been a free standing one looking at the brackets on it and it has an outer casing which is painted/coated. I've lifted the top off and it's insulated between the outer casing and the inner wall of the oven.

Any advice much appreciated.

Matt.


Hi Matt, your proposed oven may need a vent, but as suggested seek expert advice on this, regarding the steel sheet, I found that if you go to a plumbers merchants the have a fibre heat resistant board (looks similar to the old asbestos board) it is light and not that pricey, sorry cant remember what the board is called, the heat from oven will not transfer to any of the caravans wooden interior.  



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08/3/2012 at 10:10pm
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Thanks for the advice. I will get some expert advice before doing anything, Theres a caravan centre fairly local to me and the chap who owns it seems like a nice guy, I will get some advice from him if he's willing.

Cheers for pointing out the heat resistant board, I will look into that if I finally go ahead and fit the oven, That's if it doesn't end up on ebay first!

Thanks again guys



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Something like THIS is what you need steel will just transfer the heat http://www.kuranda.co.uk/chandlery/heat-protection-board.html


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09/3/2012 at 10:40am
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Have you given any thought to getting a halogen oven I find mine invaluable and I haven't used the caravan oven since buying it.

Sue.



09/3/2012 at 11:44am
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Quote: Originally posted by jhsw on 08/3/2012
Quote: Originally posted by CortinaMatt on 08/3/2012

Hi,

I would like to install an oven in my 1990 Sprite Alpine. The space for the oven is there in the form of a large cupboard underneath the two ring burner and grille. I have bought a second hand oven from a guy who was breaking a couple of vans, it's an Optimus 6020 and it looks very similar to the Rose oven I had in my Bailey, It even has Edward Rose on the back of it.

The reason I want an oven is I used the oven alot in my first van and I think I will miss it if I don't fit one.

Anyway, My question is, Do I need a vent at the rear of the oven to the outside ? I remember my Bailey had one in the back panel as the kitchen area was at the back but in my Sprite it's down the side. I have seen some vans fitted with an oven and no vent to the outside.

I really would like to avoid cutting a hole but If I do need one I guess I'll have to get the cutting tools out. Could I get away with lining the inside of the cupboard with some sheet steel ?

The Oven I've got looks like it might have been a free standing one looking at the brackets on it and it has an outer casing which is painted/coated. I've lifted the top off and it's insulated between the outer casing and the inner wall of the oven.

Any advice much appreciated.

Matt.


<P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-GB><FONT face="Times New Roman">Hi Matt, your proposed oven may need a vent, but as suggested seek expert advice on this, regarding the steel sheet, I found that if you go to a plumbers merchants the have a fibre heat resistant board (looks similar to the old asbestos board) it is light and not that pricey, sorry cant remember what the board is called, the heat from oven will not transfer to any of the caravans wooden interior. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN>




The board you are thinking of is called MASTERBOARD


09/3/2012 at 4:03pm
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Halogen oven ? Sounds interesting.

What sort of power do these things use ? are they hookup friendly ?

Have you got a link so I can have a look ? I'll have a quick look on ebay first.

Many thanks



09/3/2012 at 8:11pm
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My first M/home had a Rose oven,with No outside vent,and I have fitted a new Smev oven in a new M/Home,and no vent is needed for it,as it is totaly sealed all round.and the heat comes out the front top grill just like my Rose oven did.

Oven/Grill, Thermostat, Stainless Steel  017184

this is our old van with the Rose oven in,you can see the fridge vents,the oven was right at side of the Hab door,and as you can see there are No vents.



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10/3/2012 at 8:17am
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Quote: Originally posted by CortinaMatt on 09/3/2012

Halogen oven ? Sounds interesting.

What sort of power do these things use ? are they hookup friendly ?

Have you got a link so I can have a look ? I'll have a quick look on ebay first.

Many thanks


Have a look here

http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/chatter/search.asp?search=halogen+oven&searchMode=phrase&searchIn=Topic&forum=0&searchSort=dateDESC&ly=1&Submit=Start+Search

Plenty of reading here to keep you busy.

Sue.



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I never got on with the halogen oven, much prefer my gas one.

You should be able to tell from looking at it, weather or not it needs a vent, but my advice would be to put one in, as most caravan ovens have one (motorhomes don't though, for some reason).
Usually the vent is just behind the grill. I think it's more meant for those unlikely times when you'll have both on together.

They're not that difficult to fit, but they shouldn't really be fitted with flexible rubber gas hose, they should ideally be fitted with rigid copper gas pipe (as hose needs changing, & hose is usually for free standing, portable appliances).

Personally I would get on & fit it myself, but I'm pretty competent & confident with these things. I would also give it it's own isolation valve, placed somewhere where you can get to it (like in the cupboard under the sink, or wherever your other valves are, best keep them all together). I think this is a necessary requirement with gas appliances in caravans.

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Why not fit a small electric mini-oven or a microwave with convection or grill It would be better than messing with the gas or hacking holes every where

We have an halogen oven (to save gas) when on hookup and find it excellent It does a whole chicken in about 11/2 hours Not bad for 1200 watts



10/3/2012 at 2:02pm
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I have just made fruit scones in my halogen oven and they are delicious

Sue.



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If I were you try a check and find out how ovens are fitted by the caravan makers. I think you will find yes you will need a vent and yes you will need a gap between the sides of the oven, top and back. Other than that not much that else. I visited a caravan breakers yard and was able to see how ovens were installed in a number of vans. In all cases ovens were fitted with very little fire protection but to be fair no signs of burning were found on or around the oven housings.

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