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Subject Topic: Damp in Cabinet Post Reply Post New Topic
27/9/2012 at 7:30am
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Hi,

I have Bailey Ranger which has developed a damp problem in one of the cabinets above the left hand side window.

I really want to replace the board myself but this is all very new.

A steer in the right direction would be really appreciated-

1/ Removing the cabinet, is this a straight forward job or are there any tips?
2/ When removing the board do I attempt to remove in one piece so I can use as a template or do I construct a paper template before removal (or after).
3/ When replacing the board up to the ceiling does the board tuck behind the ceiling board to give a professional finish or is it a case of cutting up to the ceiling board.

I know these question seem really simple but I just want to get the repair done correctly.

Thanks in advance


27/9/2012 at 8:29am
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The more templates, the better. Something may change shape, or fall to bits when you remove it, so better safe.

One thing you may well find is fixings (staples or screws) that enter cupboards from above the ceiling, put in before the outer skin was fitted. You may find a hacksaw blade handy to cut through these.


27/9/2012 at 10:03am
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if water has managed to get in above the window, no doubt all this water will have then travelled downwards to escape so i wouldnt be surprised if you have a damp problem under the window also. have you found out where its been getting in?
invest in a damp meter and check the entire wall because its no good replacing the wallboard above the window if the entire wall is wet


28/9/2012 at 7:33am
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Thanks for the updates, much appreciated.

I think the damp problem came from the window seal which has been replaced and in addition I have re fitted the awning so I am hoping that the source of the damp has been sorted.

The panel section below the window has all been replaced recently professionally and I was hoping to able to dry out the section in the cabinet however a poor previous repair was identified last weekend which was strategicaly hidden by a large home made radio holder put in by the previous at £x__!! owner.

With some guidance I think can replace the board.

Thanks


28/9/2012 at 6:09pm
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I have a 2004 Bailey Monarch Pageant. Pools of water collected on shelf under front window. Walls soft, so rotten. Tried to open front window and the stay pulled out of frame (with rotten wood).
Took it for an estimate, £3500, so I will try to repair it myself. The front panel has a small crack, centre over window. I feel sure this can be sealed later and not replace the whole front panel.
How do I remove the interior panels and shelf?
I have removed the beds and cupboard/centre bed rails.
Do I lift windows horizontal to remove?
How is the aluminium window hinge fastened to 'van?
Is a diagram of the frame available from someplace or is it a case of suck it and see.


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29/9/2012 at 12:03am
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Time to sell methinks.  Water ingress is the big no no as far as I am concerned.


29/9/2012 at 1:15pm
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No need for negativity!

Take a look here;

Wizard's Caravan Damp Repair Site

The AWS registered service/repair guy that we know says that 50% of the 'vans that he services show some sort of damp problem. No one is immune, any 'van can become damp, so its a good plan to learn how to fix it!


29/9/2012 at 5:43pm
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Thank you for the link. I will go there after my report.
Not as bad as it looks. Took the beds out. Could have left them, but it gives more room to work.
The problem was that when Bailey built the 'van, they screwed the front window hinge rail through the plastic caravan front, but did not put a clearance hole for the screws through it and it cracked.
The 'van has 3 windows in front. The centre one with the crack above it has suffered badly. The whole frame is rotten. The left and right windows are not to bad. only the frame nearest the middle are rotten.
The biggest problem is the wood frame over the 3 window frames is rotten. that could be difficult although it may only be the centre section.
Plan is to cut out half of the left and right windows plus the whole of the centre window. Cut the centre of the wallboard out, same size as the new frame and only replace that. cover the join (not a lot will show) with the sticky tape used to cover 'van wallboard joins.
Do you think I'm in with a chance? Very relieved its not worse.
Mike


29/9/2012 at 5:58pm
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Sounds like a very good plan. You've got to be in with an excellent chance!


29/9/2012 at 11:09pm
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Hi,

About removing the cabinet, I had to do that, look at http://www.bailey94.co.uk/damp_in_a_locker1.htm, tenth picture down is a link to show the removal.

When replacing the board it slips into a groove left from removing the old board http://www.bailey94.co.uk/user/image/n2402.JPG


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29/9/2012 at 11:35pm
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Thanks for that Lawrence.
I had an Ace caravan a few years ago and I noticed some dark stains running down from a wall board join.
Well it ended up scrapping the 'van. I started to investigate it and there was no wood left at the back at all, just black powder and very little in the front.
When I saw the water on the shelf of the Bailey, I thought here we go again.
What people have done repairing caravans I am amazed. The Ace was a write-off though.
Thank you all again.
Mike


14/10/2012 at 10:11pm
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The 'van is all back together. Hooray. It was a lot of work but I am rather pleased with myself. The only thing I did not bother about was the shelf under the front windows. It looked OK, but when I went to screw the locker door gas strut, the wood was a little rotten and I had to reposition the bracket.
I did inspect the plastic rear of the 'van and guess what, that has 2 small cracks coming down from the awning track height.
I do not think I will be buying another Bailey.


14/10/2012 at 10:41pm
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Well done! Sounds like a success story to me.




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