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23/8/2013 at 1:48pm
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We have had this problem since we got the van and should have thrown it back straight away, but of course didn't.

No problem when on EHU but we occasionally go DA camping without and that's when the problem starts.

Inside the door we have a indicator light that glows green when the battery is fully charged. However when without EHU we use a solar panel which does charge it sufficiently but at night if you turn on one light it immediately glows red. Strangely another light doesn't have the same effect that is OK. If you flush the toilet it goes a little red but then returns to normal. We live expecting it all to pack up at any moment.

In our old van you could have the TV (black and white) on for a week and the battery would last.

There is nothing wrong with the battery it has been tested.

Hubby has today tested all the lights for faults and there doesn't appear to be any.

He has now switched everything on to see how long the battery lasts before going flat.

If anyone has any suggestions, would be please to hear them

Ta


23/8/2013 at 2:21pm
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How do you charge your leisure battery before putting it on the caravan?


23/8/2013 at 4:02pm
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sounds like the battery is discharged.the battery should be at 12.7 volts to be fully charged.

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23/8/2013 at 4:42pm
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I would like to see the result of husbands test before suggesting anything.

The battery should last even if it's only on EHU charge.

How many amp-hours is the battery

However - just one suggestion - One possibility is the conections to the battery - are they clean and tight ?



23/8/2013 at 4:48pm
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how old is the battery? could be the battery is shot and not holding chrge


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24/8/2013 at 1:17am
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The OP wanted suggestions but no response to questions.


24/8/2013 at 9:32am
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Hi all

Have run all this past hubby, he says 100 amp hours, newish battery, the battery does charge to full capacity, he fully charges it in the van before we leave.

Since I posted this he left all lights on for 8 hours and although the indicator light glowed red all this time the lights were still all working.

At start of test the battery read 12.7, he used 3amps (4 lights) and after the 8 hours it read 12.0.

I suppose if nothing else we can now stop worrying it will pack up at any time and ignore the red glowing light.


24/8/2013 at 10:20am
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at 12 volt the battery is flat.see

http://www.a-tconsulting.co.uk/caravan_tech/understanding_your_caravan_battery.html



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24/8/2013 at 10:53am
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Voltage is a poor measure of the ability of a battery to hold a charge. If its capacity has dropped it could well show fully charged and then with very little load soon become fully discharged. A drop test would indicate how much charge the battery is holding and that is effectively what you have done by loading it a 3A for 8 hours - this indicates the capacity is in the region of about 24Ah or slightly more. At a guess you have fully discharged the battery at some some time and this has caused damage to it. You might if you are lucky get a bit more life out of it by charging with an intelligent charger such as a Ctek but in general lead acid batteries don't respond too well if discharged below 50% on a regular basis and certainly not if they are left discharged for any length of time.

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24/8/2013 at 11:54am
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Quote: Originally posted by daisydaisy on 24/8/2013

.....Since I posted this he left all lights on for 8 hours and although the indicator light glowed red all this time the lights were still all working.

At start of test the battery read 12.7, he used 3amps (4 lights) and after the 8 hours it read 12.0.

I suppose if nothing else we can now stop worrying it will pack up at any time and ignore the red glowing light.



Doesn't sound like you have a problem with the 12v side of things at all. Other than maybe, an oversensitive battery condition indicator.



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24/8/2013 at 2:52pm
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Charges it in the van before you leave with the caravan charger?

That will not charge the battery to 100%. Its a stabilised charge to prevent the battery gassing.
It will keep it above 50% charge but not 100%.

You need a good quality charger, upto 8 amps. I use a CTEK charger thats just over 3amps but can be left on charge forever withi damage to the battery.
I leave it on charge for about about 4 days to a week at a time though. Keep it refreshed.

If its just one light, Or happens earlier with that one light it maybe because it draws more power than the rest or the wiring has a bad connection that causes it to pull more power.

My bathroom light does the same, Its a twin unit and flickers at startup.

I will either run a new feed wire to it or replace the light with LED units that consume much less power.

You need to put a test meter on to check the voltage, It maybe 12.6volts or more when nothing is on, But dropping below 12 when you switch the light on.

He switched everything on, But does he know what load that is putting on the battery? How many amps being drawn?



25/8/2013 at 3:57pm
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25/8/2013 at 4:03pm
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To me your battery sounds fine. Stop worrying.....

If you 'bled' the battery on 3 amps for 8 hours and it is still working - you are probably fine.   As birder99 said - that is 24 amps.

Next time try to get it over 50 amps - leave the lights on for 24 hours - if the lights are still on then the battery is good.

 

I imagine you did buy a leisure battery and not a car battery. They are made differently - car batteries don't like being fully discharged .  - it can warp the plates but they can give a high output for a short period . Leisure batteries have better insulation between the plates and don't mind being fully discharged but they don't like large demands.



26/8/2013 at 11:37am
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Thanks again everyone

He has all the whistles and bells mentioned here and yes it is a leisure battery.

Thanks you for your suggestions but us some have said, the battery appears fine so despite a red glowing indicator light we think it is time to stop worrying about it.


27/8/2013 at 7:42am
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Have you considered replacing the bulbs with LEDs?


27/8/2013 at 9:30am
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Yes this something he is considering.



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