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Topic: Floor insulation ???? Ad log burners

Kieron1

02/10/2013 at 11:00am
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Hi all
I am a newbie owner of a Atlas Debonair 30 x10 static home
I am planning to live in it during the winter while I do my house up
But my question is what is the best insulation to put under the floor of my home to keep it warm

I have looked on many sites where different products are recommended.
But when I actually contact the manufacturer of the product they say that the product is nit suitable for this usage or that that it is been used incorrectly
Of instance...the thin multi layer foil insulation....people and companies are telling me to glue it and staple it to the underside . Yet the actual manufacturer of the product says that this will only prevent a draught and may encourage condensation. As the principle of the product is to have a 25 mm air gap for the product to act as an insulator
King span type products are also recommended . After speaking to them they said that none of their products would be suitable as they are exposed to the the environment

So where do I go from here ?????

Have any of you fitted a log burner to your static homes ??

michael

02/10/2013 at 11:03am
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hi ask here Statics

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birder99

02/10/2013 at 1:12pm
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Hmmm plain kingspan is probably not suitable but they make it with marine ply on one side for use on flat roofs etc. I would have thought that to marine ply would have given ample protection given that the floors most caravans are made from this. Just make sure all the joints are taped to prevent draughts and water ingress etc. I also seen it being fitted on statics by gluing plain kingspan to the existing floor and covering with sheet ply afterwards. One of the mobile caravan repair companies might be able to advise what they do.

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Kieron1

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Thanks for the info

What do you think about putting in a small log burner ?

birder99

03/10/2013 at 6:35am
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Quote: Originally posted by Kieron1 on 02/10/2013
Thanks for the info

What do you think about putting in a small log burner ?

Frightens the hell out of me! Just the thought of a log burner in a static. Consider how you are going to prevent CO poisoning in a confined space, how you would prevent the heat from transferring to the structure of the van from both the fire and the chimney and how and where you would fit it. I would certainly go the insulate heavily route rather than a log burner.

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amara 520

04/10/2013 at 3:49pm
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Skirting the caravan will keep it warmer as it will prevent wind blowing under the caravan, just remember to leave some vents for air circulation and to have opening sections for access to water stop cock and drain down valves. Also fit another carpet over the existing ones. Static caravans are not designed to live in all year round and during cold weather heating costs can easily be £30+ /week for gas. In very cold weather the water pipes than run outside under the van can freeze overnight even when insulated

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Hi all
Thanks again for the info
I was talking to a local caravan service company the other day. After a lengthy discussion...
I am going to insulate the underside with 100 mm 4" of king span product between the joists and the use ply secured to the joists. To save some money I will use regular ply and not marine and then give it a coat of Sadolin
I might lift the existing carpets as they are in a good condition and fit a good quality underlay
As for the skirting I was thinking of using short fence panels
All the pipe work underneath and in the home I will insulate
The previous owner had a 8 inch block of Kingspan surrounding the waste trap !!!!
Mind you he was in exposed area. Where I am is quite sheltered but I don't want to take any chances!

I hooked up the power last night...let there be light!
I also had a roll of a cling film like product that is sticky on one side. I used it to roll out over the floor areas to protect them while I do the hook work to save us dragging dirt in on out boots
This product is fantastic as it actually sticks to any surface and can be easily lifted afterwards. It is about 3 ft wide .it can also be used to cover furniture etc.

As for the log burner.
The home was a 2 berth but the previous owner had remove the wall to the second bedroom to open it up giving a bigger kitchen. I was going to position the log burner in this area.
Placing the log burner on a fire board or large pice of stone flag. Behing the burner I would use a large sheet of fire board .it would be attached to the wall on blocks allowing an air gap so the heat is not transferee to the wall. You can get twin walled flues so once again the heat is not transferred to the body and roof of the van. With a good sized cowl on top should do the job

But I am still interested in folks opinion , tips, and I would like to hear from anyone who has fitted one.

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amara 520

05/10/2013 at 2:52pm
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As for the skirting I was thinking of using short fence panels

You could use decking boards, as they are much longer than fencing panels when used horizontally. Many owners use plastic cladding asit needs no maintainance

Kieron1

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Yes I agree with you , your right
So I will sink a few posts and put up decking , horizontally , with maybe an inch gap between each horizontal run of decking

Are there any other sites and forums that have more traffic on this subject?
I have found a site regarding chain saw antics arbouurologists which ph has a load of info on statics . A strange cross over ???

Cheers all

me123

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I know someone who had a log burner in their static no problems - they have them in canal boats so it might be good to google log burners suitable for canal boats and see what comes up.

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Quote: Originally posted by me123 on 12/10/2013
I know someone who had a log burner in their static no problems - they have them in canal boats so it might be good to google log burners suitable for canal boats and see what comes up.

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