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Topic: front and awning rail resealing

bt1609

03/3/2014 at 7:23pm
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Hi,
I'm pretty sure I need to reseal the front rail and awning rail on my elddis vogue hurricane 98, I think I've got most of the bits ordered but need the trim for the awning rail - can I use awning size of 843cm as a guide for how much I need and will the 12mm fit please?

I can't get up to see the van until its collected for some work next week and trying to have everything organised beforehand.

thanks

Frannyvan

03/3/2014 at 7:35pm
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Get a bit extra, as I tacked a bit of overhang under the Van. I ordered a metre extra just in case - not like it's expensive.
There are several different widths I'm afraid - I had to measure mine. Got a funny feeling mine was 9mm on my Swift, but I could be wrong

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jeff juke

04/3/2014 at 8:57am
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Run a piece of string through the awning channel and pull taught and add some xtra.Measure the string and take a piece of your insert to a caravan dealer or,turn it over and measure the back.Click

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bt1609

05/3/2014 at 8:42am
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Thanks, will measure it then.

If I do the reseal and the insert hasn't arrived will it hurt for it to be missing for a couple of days while I wait for it to arrive. I don't have any particularly local caravan dealers.

Frannyvan

05/3/2014 at 6:06pm
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Shouldn't do as long as you've resealed properly and all the screws are covered with sealant...think it's decorative to hide the screws

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Quote: Originally posted by bt1609 on 05/3/2014
Thanks, will measure it then.

If I do the reseal and the insert hasn't arrived will it hurt for it to be missing for a couple of days while I wait for it to arrive. I don't have any particularly local caravan dealers.

Not at all.

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bt1609

08/3/2014 at 8:54pm
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Thank you for your help, planning it for next weekend so will see how I get on.

bt1609

08/3/2014 at 9:05pm
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I do have another question though now. Do I need anything more than the roll mastic, it looks like people seal round the rail screws with extra stuff. What should I use for this if we should, there seem to be so many different things around.
I'm getting confused with dos and don'ts regarding types of sealant!

redheads

08/3/2014 at 10:16pm
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hi bt I have just completed a full reseal on every thing on our 2004 abbey freestyle there does seam a lot of people want to do it cheap as possible and end up using the wrong stuff I was lucky enough to be shown by a tradesman in a caravan workshop not only what type of materials to use but also showed me the correct way of applying it to I started the job in November2013 and finished it march 2014 I ended up building a temporary shelter over the caravan so I could do the work even with all the rain we had when I think about it I must have been mad.
There was two types of sealant he uses trade seal and simson isr 70-03 witch was the one I used its what swift uses on all there new caravans today .
When I fixed the awning rails on once every thing was cleaned I prepped the area with a stuff called prep-m it cleaned the surface and helps the sealant bond to the surface once dried I applied the sealant to the body covering the joins this was one thing I was shown how to do it sounds silly using a caulking gun I can hear people now try making a sealant joint 40mm wide in one application one pass it sounds easy its not when you have to do the full length of the rail by the end your arm is about to fall of then you've got to put the rail on before sealant skins over.
When you screw rail on dip screws tip in sealant before you screw it in once you have done all screws then you've got to clean of excess sealant of before it dries.

Frannyvan

09/3/2014 at 6:44am
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We used mastic on a roll and then sealed all around with Sikaflex

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LawrenceR

09/3/2014 at 8:11pm
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Here is some reading for you, it shows how I tackled some rails, hope it does not confuse you any more!!

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bt1609

11/3/2014 at 8:48pm
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thank you all, LawrenceR I found your site just before I saw your reply - its very helpful, last item to buy is Sikaflex. Certainly not confusing - actually made things clearer I think.

Planning to start with some general investigations and the front rail that joins front to roof I think - As its straight I thought it might the easiest to start with.

Frannyvan

12/3/2014 at 6:39am
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I spoke to Lawrence before resealing my van. He was very helpful and so was his site. Made it much easier - thanks Lawrence!
Only difference was that we used the wider roll of mastic as our rail is wider.
Best buy for Sikaflex at the time was Go Outdoors and Towsure for Mastic

http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/search/go?view=grid&w=sikaflex

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bt1609

16/3/2014 at 8:49pm
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thanks for your help, my dad helped me with the front rail today.
Its all back on after lots of cleaning, new mastic and sealed with sikaflex at the top. The only problem is that one side the screws won't hold particularly well into the van - On the inside the shelf bit at the very front is a bit soft at that end - is this what the rail screws into?

It did look like this might be where the water has been coming in, other repair work had been done in the past, rail came off easily and two screw heads totally rusted in that area.

I think I might need to replace shelf at some point. I'm hoping I can loosen all the screws in the rail at that point, put the new shelf in, put some more mastic round the screws and that will be ok, without the rail needing to come off? (I know its a bit more complicated really).

Just need the nice green trim I ordered to arrive for now. Unlikely to be able to have time to do the shelf until May.

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