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Subject Topic: Rusty WSL Bolts Post Reply Post New Topic
29/11/2017 at 1:40pm
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Hi
Having my van serviced today.
And all ok apart from the wsl bolts.
My engineer said he was a bit concerned that if he undid the wheel bolts on 2 of the 4 hubs, they may not tighten up again correct. Due to the amount of rust on them.
So i am going to order a new set.

Anyone else had the same problem at 5 years old










Post last edited on 29/11/2017 14:05:47

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29/11/2017 at 3:29pm
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The older caravans with steel rimmed wheels had mild steel wheel bolts which did corrode but caravans with alloy wheels I thought should have chrome vanadium wheel bolts fitted the same as a car. If you look online you can buy them but you have to make sure that the locking taper (the conical part under the hexagon) is the same angle to ensure maximum grip otherwise the bolts won't lock sufficiently causing the wheels to come loose.


29/11/2017 at 3:43pm
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Hi Tango
Am just going to get WSL straight from them at Cannock.
Then i know am not going to buy the wrong type. Don't trust ebay and alike when it comes to things like this.





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29/11/2017 at 3:48pm
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I can't say I blame you either Ray as it's best to be safe and get the right tools for the job.


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29/11/2017 at 7:37pm
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WSL bolts are supposed to stop wheels falling off

http://www.wheel-solutions.co.uk/ecommerce/ecommerce.html


29/11/2017 at 9:48pm
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I have a set up for sale unused


30/11/2017 at 10:46am
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I would contact WSL and point out that their bolts are rusting after 5 years and ask if they would replace them free of charge. I would expect them to stay rust free for the life of the caravan.
If WSL refuse to replace them then let that be a warning to others not to purchase their bolts even though they are supposed to be a good safety device. However it could be just a small batch with this issue. My vehicle is 12 years old and still has the original bolts which have not rusted.


02/12/2017 at 2:20pm
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Crikey! Are you seasonal on the beach? Not seen a set rust that much before. This is the reason I carry spare sets of wheelbolts on the van. 😉

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02/12/2017 at 9:04pm
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No lol.
In all fairness Rob my engineer had a single set on his van.
I have ordered a twin set, direct from WSL
The vans home base was coastal, before we owned it.

Sent photo to yorkshire coast caravans in Bridlington.
There reply.
From reviewing your photos with our technicians, it is our belief the the rust seen on your wheel bolts are superficial and will nut have any effect on the integrity. Our advise would be to removal the wheel bolts and clean them with a wire brush to check this. Once this is complete a light spray with a lubricant will reduce the visual effect.
Dont think i would trust their service engineers with my van with an answer like that.

WSL stated they should not have gone like that, but warranty is only 3 years.



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You will notice this with Fords particularly. Afer a few yrs the the locking wheel bolt is rusty. Tbf a bit of spray silicone gease would do the job. Clean heads of bolts as suggested replace & spray a bit of grease over them. Imo probably not a good idea to grease threads so spray bolt heads only after fitting not before fitting. It works ok on my caravan.


03/12/2017 at 2:03pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Ray Clayton on 02/12/2017
No lol.
In all fairness Rob my engineer had a single set on his van.
I have ordered a twin set, direct from WSL
The vans home base was coastal, before we owned it.

Sent photo to yorkshire coast caravans in Bridlington.
There reply.
From reviewing your photos with our technicians, it is our belief the the rust seen on your wheel bolts are superficial and will nut have any effect on the integrity. Our advise would be to removal the wheel bolts and clean them with a wire brush to check this. Once this is complete a light spray with a lubricant will reduce the visual effect.
Dont think i would trust their service engineers with my van with an answer like that.

WSL stated they should not have gone like that, but warranty is only 3 years.



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A warranty is a meaningless piece of paper and for the consumer it is worthless and can be chucked in the bin as the customer is protected by Sale of Goods Act or CRA 2015 depending when they were bought as any reasonable person would expect eh bolts to last the lifetime of the vehicle.
If they only last 3 years I would not bother with buying another set of what seems to be rubbish bolts. It also demonstrates that the seller has a no confidence in the bolts if their warranty is only for 3 years.
Why don't you draw their attention to this thread?


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Their website states


"Corrosion resistance to 840 hours salt spray"

Why don't you point this out to them and suggest that they are misleading customers with this statement.



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Quote: Originally posted by woodman2 on 03/12/2017
Their website states


"Corrosion resistance to 840 hours salt spray"

Why don't you point this out to them and suggest that they are misleading customers with this statement.





That is only 35 days so hardly a valid statement and certainly gives you no confidence in purchasing their goods!


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What I find amazing is that this product has to exist at all. I dont know anybody who would consider it and/or has actually changed the OE wheelbolts on a car for an aftermarket product.
The fact that we are perpetually told to re torque our wheel bolts in case they come loose is a very poor show on behalf of the caravan chassis manufacturers that really should be sorted.
From your post they appear to be poorly made aftermarket products sold on the basis of safety. If the mating face corrodes to this extent then they surley can not be an advantage over the OE supplied bolts that rust as well but at a slower rate.


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Quote: Originally posted by Phishing on 05/12/2017
What I find amazing is that this product has to exist at all. I dont know anybody who would consider it and/or has actually changed the OE wheelbolts on a car for an aftermarket product.
The fact that we are perpetually told to re torque our wheel bolts in case they come loose is a very poor show on behalf of the caravan chassis manufacturers that really should be sorted.
From your post they appear to be poorly made aftermarket products sold on the basis of safety. If the mating face corrodes to this extent then they surley can not be an advantage over the OE supplied bolts that rust as well but at a slower rate.



Agreed and if the bolts rust solid and cannot be removed with a spanner, they have to be drilled out at great expense to the consumer.



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