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17/3/2018 at 7:56pm
 Location: Northampton
 Outfit:  Pennine Fiesta. Elddis Crown Sceptre
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Hi all, don`t know if this is the right sub forum for this question, but here goes, I bought an old but otherwise quite sound Eldiss Crown Sceptre complete with motor mover, the mover however will only spin the van on it`s axis, it will not go forward or backward, I have checked the rollers out when not engaged and it seems one side turns in a different direction to the other, instead of both "pushing/pulling" they both go in opposite directions can anyone shed any light on this please? Rob

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17/3/2018 at 8:19pm
 Location: Near Alton Towers
 Outfit: Bailey Burgundy S7 H
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Strange why it should suddenly do that but the good thing is that they move on command, just the wrong direction in one case.
If it's like mine I have power wires going to each motor from a control panel where the relays are, the wires are connected with push-on blade connectors. Determine which motor works in the wrong direction and reverse the positive + and negative - wires to that motor only. That should fix it.

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17/3/2018 at 8:32pm
 Location: Northampton
 Outfit:  Pennine Fiesta. Elddis Crown Sceptre
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Hi Dave, I had thought of that,I was wondering if the wires on the motor needed swapping, might brave the blizzard and go have a butchers tomorrow (It`s in storage) and it`s bl**dy freezing lol Rob

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18/3/2018 at 10:10am
 Location: West Mids
 Outfit: Swift Ace Statesman & X-Trail 2.0
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I'd agree with Pickled Onion and suggest swapping the feed to the motor, but it should be easier to do on the control box than on the motor itself. My only thought would be what other consequence this might give; if the motor relay in the control box is stuck/faulty, then swapping the wiring will rectify for normal forward and back travel, but you'd still expect a problem with any of the turn commands.
Of course, there's the (unlikely) chance the motor has been wired incorrectly, but the system would have never worked correctly. Has the mover always worked in this manner since you bought the van Rob

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19/3/2018 at 10:45pm
 Location: Northampton
 Outfit:  Pennine Fiesta. Elddis Crown Sceptre
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Hi Paul, the van is old (pretty good nick though) When I picked it up from Scotland, I hooked up and drove an hour or so to a campsite I`d booked in advance (It`s a bit of a hike from Northampton to Scotland lol) I didn`t need to use the mover to set up on the site, but next morning before I left to come home I thought I`d try it out and that`s when it all went pear shaped, I phoned the seller, he was surprised, said it always worked fine for him (he would, wouldn`t he) He had the van 6 yrs before selling it to me, so I am inclined to believe him.

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20/3/2018 at 7:45am
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Peel the membrane off the top of the remote control & clean the metal contacts. They will probably be corroded. Scrape them to clean metal with a screwdriver blade.

The switches on one side of my remote stopped working & the problem was as described. Works ok now.


20/3/2018 at 10:19am
 Location: Near Alton Towers
 Outfit: Bailey Burgundy S7 H
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Yep, I'd be inclined to accept that it had been working fine too, no reason to doubt it if he's had it 6 years.
Next stage is likely to be a remote command malfunction as Opensauce suggests, are there any signs of pitting or dinks in the membrane skin? It sounds like it is giving incorrect commands out to the control panel so good news is the transmitter, receiver, control PCB and motors all work fine.
Dependant on what you see under the membrane that is the next course of action.

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20/3/2018 at 7:22pm
 Location: West country
 Outfit: Mondeo
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I think it may be a possibility that the battery is nearly flat in the remote. This can cause infrared controllers to give incorrect commands.


20/3/2018 at 10:14pm
 Location: Northampton
 Outfit:  Pennine Fiesta. Elddis Crown Sceptre
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All great tips, thanks guys, I`ve already put fresh batteries in the remote, so think I can say it`s not that, when I go over to the storage site at weekend, I`ll check out the remote in more detail, cheers

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20/3/2018 at 11:23pm
 Location: Lichfield
 Outfit: Coachman Amara 450
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The rollers on each side will actually go in opposite circular rotation to each other so when the caravan is travelling forward, the roller on the nearside will turn in a clockwise direction but the offside one will turn in an anti-clockwise direction. Make sure that the rollers are disengaged and then visually check each side as above and if the rollers are both travelling in the same direction then this indicates that it is probably an electrical fault. However, you need to determine which of the two rollers it is first that is not functioning to the command of the remote control in order to rectify the problem.


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24/3/2018 at 3:14pm
 Location: West Mids
 Outfit: Swift Ace Statesman & X-Trail 2.0
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Possibility of a remote fault, but suggest you test the operation of all directions etc., and check contacts as suggested. I'd be interested though if the offending motor always runs in the same direction (regardless of whats selected) or if any of the other directions proves it will run either way ok. It could be a fault with the control box itself, incorrectly switching the motor relay.
Keep us posted how you get on.
Oh, and which make/model mover is it Rob?

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24/3/2018 at 4:24pm
 Location: Northampton
 Outfit:  Pennine Fiesta. Elddis Crown Sceptre
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Quote: Originally posted by G7ACU on 24/3/2018
Possibility of a remote fault, but suggest you test the operation of all directions etc., and check contacts as suggested. I'd be interested though if the offending motor always runs in the same direction (regardless of whats selected) or if any of the other directions proves it will run either way ok. It could be a fault with the control box itself, incorrectly switching the motor relay.
Keep us posted how you get on.
Oh, and which make/model mover is it Rob?
Hi, well I was going to go over today and try out everybodies suggestions and fit 2 new skylights, but, the best laid plans of mice and men etc It`s a wee bit wet here in Northampton, so I`ll wait and see what tomorrow brings, The mover is an Enduro Purple Line, I`ve spoken to Enduro and a nice young engineer said I should check the connections to each motor haven`t been "switched" so once I get the chance and it`s a bit drier, I`ll pop over and give it a whirl





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04/4/2018 at 4:41pm
 Location: Middlesbrough
 Outfit: None Entered
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One of the motor supply cables has been connected wrong. Easy fix at the control unit end.
Which Make/model of mover is it?

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04/4/2018 at 10:30pm
 Location: Northampton
 Outfit:  Pennine Fiesta. Elddis Crown Sceptre
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Hi all, as quite a few of you suggested it was a faulty connection, I have only today got around to looking at it (been up North tending my poorly mam in law) I swapped the cables around on the control unit in the van and bingo Thanks for all your suggestions, I`m just glad it wasn`t any more than a quick fix. Rob

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05/4/2018 at 12:48pm
 Location: Near Alton Towers
 Outfit: Bailey Burgundy S7 H
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Glad you got it sorted Rob and hope that your MIL is now well.
A nice quick inexpensive job, enjoy your van.

Dave.

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