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Personpugwash52
17/11/2020 at 10:49am
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Hi
Does anyone know the type of screwhead this is in the picture?


its on a seating fixing point.


PersonRob and Tina
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It looks like a security headed screw, suppliers such as Screwfix sell sets of bits that might include this sort.

Have you tried loosening it using two small screwdrivers? You might be able to grip it with a mole wrench to remove it and then replace with a pozi drive screw if you don't want this hassle again.

Rob


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This is not a screw, it's a special type of pop rivet called a tri-fold rivet, they have 3 weakened groves along the shaft of the rivet, these split and fold back on themselves to provide a much stronger hold due to the spread, than conventional ones that could pull through the thin ply.

I had to replace some of these when removing my overhead locker to do the damp repair. I sourced them from on-line.

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Hi rob, no not tried anything yet, as the vans in storage, and only noticed yesterday on a visit that "work is needed" Doh


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Thanks Pickled Onion, I've not come across those before so I presume the only way to remove it is to drill it out carefully.

Rob


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My set of security screwdrivers has 3 different sizes that are the same as your picture.I cant see the logic in having a slotted head if you can't unscrew them.
saxo1


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Thanks Both for replying, I have to renew the panel anyway, and have saved an e bay link for the rivets ,

Thanks again both.

Chris


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Search eBay “tri wing screwdriver” & you will find.

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Various screw heads reference

This is what I normally use as a reference if I am unsure of a screw head type - guessing can cause serious screw ups

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Hi pugwash, don't think of buying a special screwdriver because as said, it's not a screw, it's a rivet and it will just spin forever.

I too have a Bailey Pageant and had the same conundrum, what the hell is this? when I came across them, I had three of them to remove and then refit.

There is an image here You may get a better idea of what I am talking about.

Note this is a random image, not necessarily the exact dimensions that you need.

Dave.

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Personpugwash52
18/11/2020 at 9:12pm
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Dave
     Yes I have seen another image and saved a link on e bay for the rivets,

Thanks all for replying, I think Pickled onion is correct, anyway I"ll soon find out next week, when stripping down the fittings

Chris


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18/12/2020 at 4:55pm
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Quote: Originally posted by pugwash52 on 17/11/2020
Hi
Does anyone know the type of screwhead this is in the picture?


its on a seating fixing point.


Before I start work on this, does anyone know what would be behind the wall board? a metal strip? or is it just fixed to the wallboard? TIA.


PersonPickled Onion
27/12/2020 at 1:02pm
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It's just ba rivet so it expands behind the wallboard. If there had been a wooden batten they would and do use screws to fix the brackets. It's amazing just how flimsy stuff is in a caravan structure, that's why in an accident they just fly apart but it's all to save weight (and money).

Dave.

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27/12/2020 at 7:49pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Pickled Onion on 27/12/2020
It's just ba rivet so it expands behind the wallboard. If there had been a wooden batten they would and do use screws to fix the brackets. It's amazing just how flimsy stuff is in a caravan structure, that's why in an accident they just fly apart but it's all to save weight (and money).

Dave.


Thanks dave, Ive started the board removal, but weve gone into tier4 now, and the van is 20 miles away!


PersonPickled Onion
28/12/2020 at 12:56pm
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What a pain in the A-frame.

Still, as long as we are all here at the end of it, and can actually use our caravans, all will be good. Please keep us updated on your progress when you can eventually resume the work.

Dave.

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Personpugwash52
28/12/2020 at 1:22pm
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Dave
     Only managed to use the van once this year due to this Virus and local restrictions, thats where we noticed the damp, on the front roof strap!! but due to distance away, weather at the time and the present situation, ive only sealed the leak for now, not removed the strap etc, looks like weve caught it in time, the wood is ok,



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