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01/8/2005 at 12:29pm
Location: Hants Surrey Borders Outfit: Abbey Oxford Suzuki Grand Vitara XL7
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If you want to just use the battery to run your electrics You would be better off using 12 volt appliances as if you use a converter to for eg use your 240 volt hairdryer you will run the battery down very quickly unless you use the appliances whilst your genny is going or you hook the van up to the car and have that running, either way you will need to keep the battery topped up on a regular basis, or failing that carry a spare most of the sites that do not have electric hook up can charge your battery overnight for a very small fee. We discovered that it only took about 1 hour of the water boiler being on to run the battery down enough that the water pump stopped working so we just boil a kettle or hook the van to the genny.
The sockets we have in our van are 240 volts so just because they are the originals do not assume they will be 12 volt sockets. Look in your hand book or ask the dealers. Or failing that an electrician should be able to tell you.
If all else fails, if you go to the tent section of the camping shops you can find an array of gadgets that you can use on the gas stoves. We use a camping toaster on our gas which does the toast lovely it looks very alien but it is the best toaster ever.
I don't know what a sunbeam is but there are a lot of cooking appliances out there that run on gas which is by far the best way to go if there is no hook up, or why not try a good old fashioned BBQ.
If you are going to a no hook up site I would advise taking a very good torch and a gas lantern - Just in Case!!!!!!!!!!!
Good luck
There I said I would look into it I feel better informed myself now and the one luxury I will be taking with me this year will be my little travel hairdryer!!!!!!!!
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01/8/2005 at 12:49pm
Location: None Entered Outfit: None Entered
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A couple of things about inverters.
First, maplin have them on sale at the moment. 19.99 for a 300 watt inverter which is the cheapest I have seen them.
Second, I wont go into all the sums, but if you change 12V to 230V, then you are going to need much more current from the 12V side to supply the necessary energy The rule of thumb is that for every 10W of energy needed for the 230 V appliance, 1A is drawn from the 12V supply.
For example a portable colour TV requires about 80W (look for the wattage on a plate at the back 300W mentioned above imho is too high). The inverter will draw about 8A from the caravan battery to supply the TV.
If you have a fully charged 65 AH leisure battery it would run the TV via an inverter for just over 8 hours before being completely drained. Of course you need the battery for other things, so if you went away for the weekend with no hook up then you can probably only use the TV for 3-4 hours. Of course you could always buy a 110 AH Battery, or just have a second battery with you. I think you mentioned a hairdryer? the wattage is probably too great for a 300W inverter. The greater the wattage the more expensive they get.
Basically, an inverter can save you the cost of buying more expensive 12V appliances but the penalty is the amount of current they draw and the need to have bigger capacity batterys to supply it for a reasonable amount of time.
Hope this helps
Simon
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01/8/2005 at 1:36pm
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cadac the thing of my dreams.........
and thats exactly where its staying :O(
we only use disposable (choke your neighbours) barbecues,i think we will suffer and live without sunbeam and toastie thing :O(
the fridge and lights will be ok cos they can run off battery? im 100% sure the lights can,im picking up the van tonite yippeeee! so will have to get used to using fridge on gas :O( scared :O( or battery??
oh im confusing myself now :O(
ill get there eventually
thats all i need is a cadac and another gas bottle ill be fine then :O)
but u cant run fridges off cadacs
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01/8/2005 at 9:54pm
Location: Notts Outfit: X tents lillebror TT Conway Cardinal
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The campsite is on the Golden Cap Estate administered by the NT - it is tween Charmouth and Seatown at Morecombelake. I have been to the area but not the site but i have heard good reports - beautiful spot etc although if you go to most off these clifftop sites in the area you get very strong winds so I am not sure what it will be like. If you want the seaview then you have to put up with the wind.
PS only 15 units allowed on site.
If you want to keep power going try solar panels (40W is minimum I think) and I am looking to upgrade to 80W for touring. Also big batteries. I have 2600W geni as well but it is too anti-social for sit euse just use it at a farm we stay in derbyshire.
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